Forces Housing Complaints increasing

#2
"We are committed to providing the highest standard of accommodation for our armed forces and their families.' They have been saying this or something similar for the last 40 years but it just gets worse. What about some verifiable targets for all to see?
 
#3
well when we moved back to Germany they gave us a 3rd floor flat I asked to go to a ground floor as the stairs would be a problem for me and we had a dog , they said theres nothing else? so 9 days after moving our 10 year old dog jumped from the balcony and died , we were gutted , then we were told 6 months later we would be moved out because they were up grading the flats? and they would give me a ground floor! we got the address and were pleased, then today I was told we arent getting it because someone is coming from out the area and they needed a place to live! even though i am packed and ready to go and sleeping on a matress on the floor?everything being packed as hubby is in afghan he did everything before he left , who gives these people to play with our lives? im gutted ive got a pre-march out but nowhere to march too?????? I think the powers that be need to get a grip on whats going on with the wives , we move where they send our husbands all we ask for is some consideration , im sitting here with only a tv and my sofas , all my belongings are in boxes now i dont know how long i will have to live like this, and they wonder why some wives get depressed? im normaly upbeat but im sitting here crying like a baby cause im so sick of other people playing God with MY life, and they wonder why wives just up and leave???? those in charge of housing should hang their heads in shame , i dont know how they f..king sleep at night
 
#7
well when we moved back to Germany they gave us a 3rd floor flat I asked to go to a ground floor as the stairs would be a problem for me and we had a dog , they said theres nothing else? so 9 days after moving our 10 year old dog jumped from the balcony and died , we were gutted , then we were told 6 months later we would be moved out because they were up grading the flats? and they would give me a ground floor! we got the address and were pleased, then today I was told we arent getting it because someone is coming from out the area and they needed a place to live! even though i am packed and ready to go and sleeping on a matress on the floor?everything being packed as hubby is in afghan he did everything before he left , who gives these people to play with our lives? im gutted ive got a pre-march out but nowhere to march too?????? I think the powers that be need to get a grip on whats going on with the wives , we move where they send our husbands all we ask for is some consideration , im sitting here with only a tv and my sofas , all my belongings are in boxes now i dont know how long i will have to live like this, and they wonder why some wives get depressed? im normaly upbeat but im sitting here crying like a baby cause im so sick of other people playing God with MY life, and they wonder why wives just up and leave???? those in charge of housing should hang their heads in shame , i dont know how they f..king sleep at night
I'm sorry to hear this. Some organisations look after their families better than others. If you're in Germany i suggest you go to the forthcoming round of CGS briefing team families' briefs and tell it straight to the horses mouth.
 
#8
I'm sorry to hear this. Some organisations look after their families better than others. If you're in Germany i suggest you go to the forthcoming round of CGS briefing team families' briefs and tell it straight to the horses mouth.
Seconded, do not be afraid to name some names, stand up for yourself. If the morons in the housing office are working to their own agenda, which unfortunately they often do, go past them and bubble them. While your husbands away, the Home(insert rat/rhino/etc name) Team should be working flat out to look after you
 

Grumblegrunt

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#9
I was talking to a guy last year who was doing an inspection of a pfi project for forces housing.

the result was houses worth half as much as they should be yet costing 4 times what they could because everything was so subcontracted that the quality was utter crap.

they should let the army build their own homes, after all we teach them to do everything and it would a good apprentice scheme to get the country back on track. the US has its corps of engineers for civil works and I reckon we should have something similar
 
#10
the thread's 3 years old...anything changed?


Probably not, MQ's were mostly sh*t when I was a kid in the mid 60's, I doubt anythings changed much in the intervening 45 years.
 
#11
Probably not, MQ's were mostly sh*t when I was a kid in the mid 60's, I doubt anythings changed much in the intervening 45 years.
Your quite right the MQ's (depending on area) state's have hardly changed, however I'm located in a Tri-service patch which isn't to bad,

Shame, as I've just had my pre march out when they've just started a delayed 2 year decanting programme, typical..
 
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Tremaine

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#12
Are these housing standard problems just in BFG? Chivenor MQs don't look too bad, mates houses we've been in recently. Granted whilst we were in Minden, 1990 , MQ's patch on Baerenkaempen was almost falling to bits. We did most of the repairs ourselves as there "was no money". Bit of a contrast to Berlin which was a feckin decent MQ. Worst MQ ever has to be Lisanelly , Omagh. Dreadful and with Parkray burners, coal and dust everywhere plus the added delight of paying for the fecker.
 
#13
the thread's 3 years old...anything changed?
Yes.

DHE are even more firmly entrenched, with an attitude of "take it or leave it" as it’s no skin of any of our miserable stinking civilian noses.
Funny how we are talking about slashing allowances yet you’ve got people being put in Andover/Bullford who work at Middle Wallop. People who live at Middle Wallop who work in Andover. People living in Amsebury who work in Tidworth etc, etc.

All being paid Residence to place of Duty because it’s all to f*cking difficult for some incompetent Tw*t to try and locate people in their place of work.

That and the fact that a certain HQ has just planted itself on the A303 and all the good houses are in Middle Wallop ^_~
 

Grumblegrunt

LE
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#14
my brothers pad in abingdon was okay considering it was 1940's raf officers housing. nice and roomy if a little rough an ready in places.

he's in biefeld now and has spent 6 months trying to find the secret family in the cellar
 
#15
Are these housing standard problems just in BFG? Chivenor MQs don't look too bad, mates houses we've been in recently. Granted whilst we were in Minden, 1990 , MQ's patch on Baerenkaempen was almost falling to bits. We did most of the repairs ourselves as there "was no money". Bit of a contrast to Berlin which was a feckin decent MQ. Worst MQ ever has to be Lisanelly , Omagh. Dreadful and with Parkray burners, coal and dust everywhere plus the added delight of paying for the fecker.
IIRC Lisanelly MQ's resembled the village at lyde it was that bad..
 
#16
D ****ing E and in particular the HI ****ing C at Warminster need a good old fashioned boot up the ****!

Family was posted at short notice and have been passed from pillar to post
"no room at the inn I'm afraid" "ooh sorry nothing available"
"we only have the stock we've got"
"you'll have to move to the Cotswold centre that doesn't take dogs and only has 3 beds"
"yeah **** your kids Mr BPS they don't need an education, they're squaddie brats anyway"
"what do you mean you've read the regulations?"
"yeah we know we are supposed to offer SSFA, but we aren't going to so **** off"
"no there is **** all available I am afraid, you'll have to tell your CoC that you can't go to your new job"

Funnily enough after informing said CoC a quarter was available inside 5 minutes - kind of works in your favour if your new boss is a 1* who's not afraid to get on the phone. (not mine but Mrs BPS).

All in all my experience of DE in the UK has left the impression that they are not fit to organise fucks in a **** shop!
 

B_AND_T

MIA
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#17
D ****ing E and in particular the HI ****ing C at Warminster need a good old fashioned boot up the ****!

Family was posted at short notice and have been passed from pillar to post
"no room at the inn I'm afraid" "ooh sorry nothing available"
"we only have the stock we've got"
"you'll have to move to the Cotswold centre that doesn't take dogs and only has 3 beds"
"yeah **** your kids Mr BPS they don't need an education, they're squaddie brats anyway"
"what do you mean you've read the regulations?"
"yeah we know we are supposed to offer SSFA, but we aren't going to so **** off"
"no there is **** all available I am afraid, you'll have to tell your CoC that you can't go to your new job"

Funnily enough after informing said CoC a quarter was available inside 5 minutes - kind of works in your favour if your new boss is a 1* who's not afraid to get on the phone. (not mine but Mrs BPS).

All in all my experience of DE in the UK has left the impression that they are not fit to organise fucks in a **** shop!
I am sure I know you!
 
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Tremaine

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#18
IIRC Lisanelly MQ's resembled the village at lyde it was that bad..
Yes they were bad, falling to bits mostly. Back to Barenkaempen Minden. After we all pulled out the Germans moved Russian Germans in, sorted out the MQ patch in short time and planted the green areas up. Renovated all the houses up lovely .
 
#19
When I married my second wife I made one simple decision. I will NEVER ask her to live in an Army quarter. It is not just the standard of the accomodation that is the issue. If it was we could all probably live with it. The real problem is the attitude of those responsible who have forgotten (if they ever acknowleged it in the first place) that they exist to serve us.

The simple fact that is not accepted by those in authority is that every move of every individual is a unique event that would be stressful if it went smoothly. Instead of providing a managed move with the resources to help, the Army leaves the individual to struggle and produces beaurocracy to hinder.

This has been a constant and steady drain on morale for the last 2 decades, probably longer.
 
#20
Our old MQ was a dump, next doors was even worse. The last time I saw a kitchen that old was in Dot Cottons house on Eastenders.

Our row of houses has now all been sold off to buy-to-let landlords...they are renting 3 bed ex MQ's out at £750 p/m and even come complete with the original army carpets and curtains...and cooker. £750 p/m? hahaha get to ****!
 

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