This post and the website have raised doubts among some people. I thought I would post it here as if true it deserves some limelight (and we will give it advertising space with other charities), and if not then then someone on here is likely to be able to work it out.
The petition exists, but it is very definitely not a charity. The website is very vague about how much and where funds will go. A friend who runs a charity related business had this to say when I asked for an opinion:
"There is no transparency about how the funds are shared or used, or about the legal constitution of the organisation. And the claims about various generals and princes sounds a bit suspect. On the site it is made clear that the IP rights to the name, site etc are owned privately, which does not fit well with the declared charitable objectives..."
Posted by richie 042 - my bold:
"I am the founder of forcescover.com at present we have Major General Roddy Porter MBE as Patron of the website.
There is good potential of this charity if we get the support from veterans and the general public that support the forces and with your help we can achieve its aims.
Government Petition:
Our petition has been approved by the Number 10 web team, and
Is now available on the Number 10 website at the following
Address:
Could your members please sign and support forcescover.com and the petition
petitions.PM.gov.UK/vets-hospital/
Our petition reads:
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to To allow a
Privately funded Veterans Hospital to be built on an active
Airforce property
Please find some information that was published in the Media:
www.walesonline.co.uk/...-21679141/
www.walesonline.co.uk/...-21678728/
Media Wales have run another article this week in the Western Mail Newspaper on the E-Petition
Some general information on the Charity
FORCESCOVER.COM
The Forcescover.com Charitable Fund has been set up to assist and improve the quality of life of serving UK armed forces personnel, veterans and their families. Unlike any other charity, forcescover is a pioneering charity that raises funds without asking for donations â the money is generated from the commission received from the sale of insurance, utility and online home shopping products via the Forcescover.com website.
The charity has a list of proposed projects and initiatives, including the following:
⢠Building the first Armed Forces Veterans Hospital in Wales
⢠The setting up of trust funds for âThe Children of the Fallen Hero'sâ we refer to, every child of a parent killed whilst serving or on active duty, thus will enable us to care for the children as they get older and offer the support that their parent would have provided.
⢠Family Support initiatives
⢠Rehabilitation projects â providing physical and mental support services for forces personnel recuperating from
Active duty
⢠Support and welfare for the families of those killed in action
By using the support of the public from both the e-petition and the Daily Expressâ Hospital for Heroes Campaign along
With our unique method of raising funds, we believe that we all have a strong proposal to put before the Government
That will be difficult to refuse.
We have been in talks with a major UK hospital construction company and have estimated build costs of such a build
Project as £15Million.
The Government is insisting that a Military Hospital is not viable due to costs of training and equipment in the ever advancing
Field of medicine, coupled with the fact that at Selly Oak there are only 11 patients in a 15 bed special military ward. We are NOT asking for a Military Hospital â we are asking for a UK Armed Forces Veterans Hospital, to care for all of our armed forces, whether they be serving or ex-serving. There is a short-fall that needs addressing, the NHS cannot support or sustain healthcare for such large numbers of veterans that require long term care. We aim to resolve this by building and funding a dedicated Hospital that is âfit for purposeâ, with or without Government assistance. Such a
Facility could be used to treat Trauma patients returning from conflict, if it were allowed to be built near to on an MOD Base and could also be used as a âback-feedâ for NHS use as and when the capacity allows.
We have been gaining support from the the following Councils: Bridgend, Swansea, Newport to name a few, also Madeleine Moon MP who is arranging a meeting to discuss forcescover.com and a meeting is arranged at the Welsh Assembly plus the Daily Express have also shown interest.
Princes William and Harry have asked to be kept informed on our progress and Major General Roddy Porter has gracefully offered his patronage to the charity.
Due to the possibility of the ammount of funds that can be generated we could be looking at supporting the Help for Hero's, Navy, Army and Airforce Benevolence, SAFFA and the Royal British Legion as there are 10.5 million Veterans in the UK
Kevin Richards
Kevin @ forcescover.com
Richie042
Posts: 3
Joined: Oct 02, 2008
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The petition exists, but it is very definitely not a charity. The website is very vague about how much and where funds will go. A friend who runs a charity related business had this to say when I asked for an opinion:
"There is no transparency about how the funds are shared or used, or about the legal constitution of the organisation. And the claims about various generals and princes sounds a bit suspect. On the site it is made clear that the IP rights to the name, site etc are owned privately, which does not fit well with the declared charitable objectives..."
Posted by richie 042 - my bold:
"I am the founder of forcescover.com at present we have Major General Roddy Porter MBE as Patron of the website.
There is good potential of this charity if we get the support from veterans and the general public that support the forces and with your help we can achieve its aims.
Government Petition:
Our petition has been approved by the Number 10 web team, and
Is now available on the Number 10 website at the following
Address:
Could your members please sign and support forcescover.com and the petition
petitions.PM.gov.UK/vets-hospital/
Our petition reads:
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to To allow a
Privately funded Veterans Hospital to be built on an active
Airforce property
Please find some information that was published in the Media:
www.walesonline.co.uk/...-21679141/
www.walesonline.co.uk/...-21678728/
Media Wales have run another article this week in the Western Mail Newspaper on the E-Petition
Some general information on the Charity
FORCESCOVER.COM
The Forcescover.com Charitable Fund has been set up to assist and improve the quality of life of serving UK armed forces personnel, veterans and their families. Unlike any other charity, forcescover is a pioneering charity that raises funds without asking for donations â the money is generated from the commission received from the sale of insurance, utility and online home shopping products via the Forcescover.com website.
The charity has a list of proposed projects and initiatives, including the following:
⢠Building the first Armed Forces Veterans Hospital in Wales
⢠The setting up of trust funds for âThe Children of the Fallen Hero'sâ we refer to, every child of a parent killed whilst serving or on active duty, thus will enable us to care for the children as they get older and offer the support that their parent would have provided.
⢠Family Support initiatives
⢠Rehabilitation projects â providing physical and mental support services for forces personnel recuperating from
Active duty
⢠Support and welfare for the families of those killed in action
By using the support of the public from both the e-petition and the Daily Expressâ Hospital for Heroes Campaign along
With our unique method of raising funds, we believe that we all have a strong proposal to put before the Government
That will be difficult to refuse.
We have been in talks with a major UK hospital construction company and have estimated build costs of such a build
Project as £15Million.
The Government is insisting that a Military Hospital is not viable due to costs of training and equipment in the ever advancing
Field of medicine, coupled with the fact that at Selly Oak there are only 11 patients in a 15 bed special military ward. We are NOT asking for a Military Hospital â we are asking for a UK Armed Forces Veterans Hospital, to care for all of our armed forces, whether they be serving or ex-serving. There is a short-fall that needs addressing, the NHS cannot support or sustain healthcare for such large numbers of veterans that require long term care. We aim to resolve this by building and funding a dedicated Hospital that is âfit for purposeâ, with or without Government assistance. Such a
Facility could be used to treat Trauma patients returning from conflict, if it were allowed to be built near to on an MOD Base and could also be used as a âback-feedâ for NHS use as and when the capacity allows.
We have been gaining support from the the following Councils: Bridgend, Swansea, Newport to name a few, also Madeleine Moon MP who is arranging a meeting to discuss forcescover.com and a meeting is arranged at the Welsh Assembly plus the Daily Express have also shown interest.
Princes William and Harry have asked to be kept informed on our progress and Major General Roddy Porter has gracefully offered his patronage to the charity.
Due to the possibility of the ammount of funds that can be generated we could be looking at supporting the Help for Hero's, Navy, Army and Airforce Benevolence, SAFFA and the Royal British Legion as there are 10.5 million Veterans in the UK
Kevin Richards
Kevin @ forcescover.com
Richie042
Posts: 3
Joined: Oct 02, 2008
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