For once,some sense in a council!

#1
Birmingham City Council has revolted over Government plans over Asylum Seekers.
Home Office guidelines state a list of 'essentials' that housing officials MUST be provided for in assylum properties.
These include-
20in Colour TV.
Vacumn Cleaner
Deep Fat Fryer
Coffee Table
ect.
It also states that the £131.50 TV Licence fee must be re-newed by the host council.
Birmingham C.C has refused to sign the agreement UNLESS the 'luxuries' are removed from the Government greement insisting that the 260 homes reserved for asylum seekers are furnished to basic standards.
Housing chief.John Lines (Tory councilman) said
" There is no way that asylum seekers will be supplied with luxury items paid for by the taxpayer that some of our 70.000 tennents cant afford.There will be no TV's or licences paid for from council taxes,Not on your nelly"
Private landlords have to provide the ammenities to qualify for Home Office tenancy contracts but councils can question the luxuries & must supply safe central heating, cot's & other items for infants,child gates on stairs & play areas.They must also clean the windows every 12 weeks,
The are 5 year contracts to provide accomodation for some 35.000 asylum seekers with a value of £135 million per year.

Make's you glad to be British,does'nt it?Knowing we're paying for luxuries for asylum seekers as well as benifit's,ect when thousands of British Nationals can't afford such items!
I remember when my Dad came out to Bruggen to visit.Their pasport was in my Step Mom's handbag,which was stolen.We had to go to the British Consulate in Dusseldorf who we're more interested in giving aid to forieghners than their own citizens (it was a few month's before H/K was given back to the Chinese)
Spike
 
#2
I made this exact point on the "How did you do PTP" thread. At that time however, I could not go into detail as to why the BNP slurs were untrue, but it's up in Black and White now.

Spike, what is the source?
 
#3
Read it in today's Sunday Express but there's no link as they have a pay for online version.I re-wrote the peice for copyright.
 
#4
Makes you wonder whether it would be worth the lads in Cavalry Barracks, Hounslow, applying for asylum like most of their neighbours. No TV tax - what a result. Maybe the local council could do something about the accomodation too.

dpm
 
#6
Would almost be worth renouncing your passport and coming back in wouldnt it ??

I remember applying for a council flat before I left the service and was told by my Housing Office that I was a lower priority then someone coming out of prison .. prime reason why so many people living on the streets have a Forces background.

And when I did get a flat I had to decorate it myself (and it needed it) .. the only thing free was the obscene graffiti on the living room wall that stopped me having my kids there until I could decorate.

Welcome to Modern Britian .. where the less you put in the more you get out .. and vice versa.
 
#7
Yep, when I left they told me that as a single male, regardless of the fact that I had spent the last 9 years in service of the country and had been medically discharged out following being injured on duty, that I was a bottom priority and the best that they could offer was a place in a hostel!! Having no "real" work background I couldn't get a mortgage and couldn't rent privatley.

It wasn't until the RBL rang my local MP and threatened to take the story to the press that I was offered a sh1tty 6th floor flat on a dive of an estate.

If I had renounced my citizenship, taken a third world passport and then sneaked back into the UK hiding in a delivery of mangos I would have been laughing.
 
#8
NorthSeaTiger said:
Would almost be worth renouncing your passport and coming back in wouldnt it ??

I have a For remember applying for a council flat before I left the service and was told by my Housing Office that I was a lower priority then someone coming out of prison .. prime reason why so many people living on the streetsces background.

And when I did get a flat I had to decorate it myself (and it needed it) .. the only thing free was the obscene graffiti on the living room wall that stopped me having my kids there until I could decorate.

Welcome to Modern Britian .. where the less you put in the more you get out .. and vice versa.
Same happened to me,I was put on the waiting list for 7 years! BUT,I found a loophole & used it!The private flat I was renting was damp & I got a letter from my Doctor saying so.I was then moved up the list & got one within 2 month's of sending in the letter.
I don't like to play the system,but I felt I had no choice. I served my country yet lay-abouts & scroungers get thing's thrown at them.
 
#9
NorthSeaTiger said:
Welcome to Modern Britian .. where the less you put in the more you get out .. and vice versa.
I would pmsl if this wasn't quite so true :roll:
 
#11
spike7451 said:
Birmingham City Council has revolted over Government plans over Asylum Seekers.
Home Office guidelines state a list of 'essentials' that housing officials MUST be provided for in assylum properties.
These include-
20in Colour TV.
Vacumn Cleaner
Deep Fat Fryer
Coffee Table
ect.
It also states that the £131.50 TV Licence fee must be re-newed by the host council.
Birmingham C.C has refused to sign the agreement UNLESS the 'luxuries' are removed from the Government greement insisting that the 260 homes reserved for asylum seekers are furnished to basic standards.
Housing chief.John Lines (Tory councilman) said
" There is no way that asylum seekers will be supplied with luxury items paid for by the taxpayer that some of our 70.000 tennents cant afford.There will be no TV's or licences paid for from council taxes,Not on your nelly"
Private landlords have to provide the ammenities to qualify for Home Office tenancy contracts but councils can question the luxuries & must supply safe central heating, cot's & other items for infants,child gates on stairs & play areas.They must also clean the windows every 12 weeks,
The are 5 year contracts to provide accomodation for some 35.000 asylum seekers with a value of £135 million per year.

Make's you glad to be British,does'nt it?Knowing we're paying for luxuries for asylum seekers as well as benifit's,ect when thousands of British Nationals can't afford such items!
I remember when my Dad came out to Bruggen to visit.Their pasport was in my Step Mom's handbag,which was stolen.We had to go to the British Consulate in Dusseldorf who we're more interested in giving aid to forieghners than their own citizens (it was a few month's before H/K was given back to the Chinese)
Spike
If you're going to propagate Richard Desmond's dreary disinformation about asylum seekers, please try harder. What does this mean? If you meant 'etc.' then please expand - this is lazy. I don't mean the pedantic correction of 'ect.' but to politely request that you specify exactly what they're getting. Etcetera could mean DVD player; subscription to NTL; £100 vouchers for Harvey Nicks; family invites to Mayor's inauguration banquet; a free 10 year subscription to the Daily Express and a knighthood. You're not BNP are you, by the way?
 
#12
frenchperson said:
spike7451 said:
Birmingham City Council has revolted over Government plans over Asylum Seekers.
Home Office guidelines state a list of 'essentials' that housing officials MUST be provided for in assylum properties.
These include-
20in Colour TV.
Vacumn Cleaner
Deep Fat Fryer
Coffee Table
ect.
It also states that the £131.50 TV Licence fee must be re-newed by the host council.
Birmingham C.C has refused to sign the agreement UNLESS the 'luxuries' are removed from the Government greement insisting that the 260 homes reserved for asylum seekers are furnished to basic standards.
Housing chief.John Lines (Tory councilman) said
" There is no way that asylum seekers will be supplied with luxury items paid for by the taxpayer that some of our 70.000 tennents cant afford.There will be no TV's or licences paid for from council taxes,Not on your nelly"
Private landlords have to provide the ammenities to qualify for Home Office tenancy contracts but councils can question the luxuries & must supply safe central heating, cot's & other items for infants,child gates on stairs & play areas.They must also clean the windows every 12 weeks,
The are 5 year contracts to provide accomodation for some 35.000 asylum seekers with a value of £135 million per year.

Make's you glad to be British,does'nt it?Knowing we're paying for luxuries for asylum seekers as well as benifit's,ect when thousands of British Nationals can't afford such items!
I remember when my Dad came out to Bruggen to visit.Their pasport was in my Step Mom's handbag,which was stolen.We had to go to the British Consulate in Dusseldorf who we're more interested in giving aid to forieghners than their own citizens (it was a few month's before H/K was given back to the Chinese)
Spike
If you're going to propagate Richard Desmond's dreary disinformation about asylum seekers, please try harder. What does this mean? If you meant 'etc.' then please expand - this is lazy. I don't mean the pedantic correction of 'ect.' but to politely request that you specify exactly what they're getting. Etcetera could mean DVD player; subscription to NTL; £100 vouchers for Harvey Nicks; family invites to Mayor's inauguration banquet; a free 10 year subscription to the Daily Express and a knighthood. You're not BNP are you, by the way?

Oh well he must be.....anyone being the least bit annoyed about what your average asylum seeker receives in benefits must be BNP. If you do want specifics though, just go on the BNP website and there's a PDF document with a full inventory for a council house, designated for use by asylum seekers.

Am I a BNP supporter? irrelevant, but still non of you business.
 
#13
frenchperson said:
spike7451 said:
Birmingham City Council has revolted over Government plans over Asylum Seekers.
Home Office guidelines state a list of 'essentials' that housing officials MUST be provided for in assylum properties.
These include-
20in Colour TV.
Vacumn Cleaner
Deep Fat Fryer
Coffee Table
ect.
It also states that the £131.50 TV Licence fee must be re-newed by the host council.
Birmingham C.C has refused to sign the agreement UNLESS the 'luxuries' are removed from the Government greement insisting that the 260 homes reserved for asylum seekers are furnished to basic standards.
Housing chief.John Lines (Tory councilman) said
" There is no way that asylum seekers will be supplied with luxury items paid for by the taxpayer that some of our 70.000 tennents cant afford.There will be no TV's or licences paid for from council taxes,Not on your nelly"
Private landlords have to provide the ammenities to qualify for Home Office tenancy contracts but councils can question the luxuries & must supply safe central heating, cot's & other items for infants,child gates on stairs & play areas.They must also clean the windows every 12 weeks,
The are 5 year contracts to provide accomodation for some 35.000 asylum seekers with a value of £135 million per year.

Make's you glad to be British,does'nt it?Knowing we're paying for luxuries for asylum seekers as well as benifit's,ect when thousands of British Nationals can't afford such items!
I remember when my Dad came out to Bruggen to visit.Their pasport was in my Step Mom's handbag,which was stolen.We had to go to the British Consulate in Dusseldorf who we're more interested in giving aid to forieghners than their own citizens (it was a few month's before H/K was given back to the Chinese)
Spike
If you're going to propagate Richard Desmond's dreary disinformation about asylum seekers, please try harder. What does this mean? If you meant 'etc.' then please expand - this is lazy. I don't mean the pedantic correction of 'ect.' but to politely request that you specify exactly what they're getting. Etcetera could mean DVD player; subscription to NTL; £100 vouchers for Harvey Nicks; family invites to Mayor's inauguration banquet; a free 10 year subscription to the Daily Express and a knighthood. You're not BNP are you, by the way?
How is rewriting an article for us all to see lazy? its the opposite and anyone can have a typo! Even without the etc. it is still pretty bad that they get stuff for free that your general mortgage paying, tax paying person can not easily afford.

Well done Birmingham, and i hope others can follow your lead!

OS
 
#15
Frenchie

What on earth gives you the right to cast slurs like accusing someone of being a member of the BNP?? I didn't even notice the etc in there until you pointed it out, as I considered the list to be pretty shameful as it is. The general point is made, and Birmingham Council should be applauded for at least trying to stem this tide of PC nonsense where an economic migrant can come into this country and excpect to receive more help than the many many general cases of British taxpayers who are more deserving of help from the state. And by British, I don't give a fcuk what colour or religion they are. Fcuk off you mudslinging troll
 
#16
the_guru said:
Frenchie

Fcuk off you mudslinging troll
Well said. It seems to me that the standard response by the police/press etc at the moment to people questioning the way the system is weighted towards asylum seekers is to accuse them of racism/xenophobia/BNP membership.

I for one am not racist/xenophobic or a member of the BNP. I am, however, a taxpayer who believes he has a right to question how his money is spent.
 
#17
An interesting fact is that many councils and Stalinists like Frenchperson (Name says it all really) denied that Asylum seekers (Or illegal economic migrants to be more accurate) received furniture etc. Fortunately the freedom of information act exposed this lie. Many of them were selling their furniture so it was having to be replaced. My humble opinion is that people in genuine need, fleeing genuine persecution would be so grateful to the generosity of the British people that they would not behave in this manner. I guess I must just be naive.
 
#18
Back in 1999, my local council spent millions of pounds turning a derelict building into what can only be described as a ' luxury des res' for 28 Kosovan families. This included sky t.v etc. The Kosovans paid not one penny towards anything despite claiming unemployment benefit, family allowance and so forth. Their food, accommodation and clothing etc was provided as was medical care and education. Nine months later, the council mysteriously managed to find 28 properties all within a street or 2 of each other to house them.
The houses were decorated and each of the families were given £2.5 thousand pounds each to furnish them. Their rent and council tax etc was paid as well.
Twelve months later, the families were due to return home to Kosovo and were each given £750 'assistance' for this. That was per person, per family, regardless of age or status.
They went home with the comments of 'Tony Blair, my friend' while making monetary gestures and big smiles.
Strangely enough, most of them returned claiming asylum at a later date.
How do i know this? because i processed their bloody claim forms! :twisted:
 
#19
How about giving them accom in Copehill Down just to add a bit of authenticity. It would mean they are contributing towards the defence of their host country and they would feel really at home in the middle of a firefight. Live firing exercises could be conducted using early release rapists etc... Targets will fall when hit.
 
#20
Good for Birmingham. Im not opposed to immegration, far from it, but to provide a "basic " standard that is clearly higher than a lot of UK citizens is clearly wrong
 

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