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#1
i am a new member to the forum and was just reading some of the comments about chef i am a chef myself and i must say i enjoy my job but all the critisism we ge is beyond a joke you always complain about the food and the size of the portions but where else can you get three meals a day for just £1.81 you couldnt even get a sandwich for that now adays so cut us some slack will ya..... :( :( :( :(
 

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#3
It's in the job description !

Chef Duties :

Cooking & being the butt of all jokes & complaints. (Excludes : Boots, Phys, Fd Craft, and soldiering, and more)


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#4
i thought you got £2.75 per person per day for food. And that kept you quite well supplied as there is large in bulk buying.

I've seen the Navy side in operation no complaints. The army doesn't seem to work as well.

Maybe you can shed some light on that?
 
#5
AS IT SAYS ON A SOLDIERS PAY SLIP HE PAYS £3.20 A DAY FOR FOOD BUT WE ONLY GET £1.81 I DONT KNOW WHERE THE OTHER £1.39 GOES AND AS FOR THE NAVY THEY HAVE A FAR BIGGER BUDGET THAN WE DO BUT DONT KNOW WHY THEY DO :D :D :D
 
#6
Still with far more personnel than the Navy one would imagine you could get a far better deal on bulk buying.

I think the protest comes when we try the other services food and then compare it to the Army ones.

Are you an Army chef or one of the nasty excuses for biohazard creation hired from the public sector?

Having endured meals from sodexho i was less than impressed. Whereas I do believe the RN ones are done by civilians too and i've never tasted better food than there.

P.s. Don't put your post all in upper capitals on the internet that indicates that you're shouting.
 
#7
BENNY2672 said:
AS IT SAYS ON A SOLDIERS PAY SLIP HE PAYS £3.20 A DAY FOR FOOD BUT WE ONLY GET £1.81 I DONT KNOW WHERE THE OTHER £1.39 GOES AND AS FOR THE NAVY THEY HAVE A FAR BIGGER BUDGET THAN WE DO BUT DONT KNOW WHY THEY DO :D :D :D
Apparently (or so I was told) many moons ago all 3 services were asked what they needed to feed their servicemen per day. The head army beancounter at the time thought he'd be clever and put in the lowest amount expecting everyone else to get the same. They didn't. The army got the worst catering budget whilst the RN and RAF go 5 star restraunts and skilled chefs.
Anyone who has ever worked on joint camps (Airport camp in Belize is a good example) will tell you just how good the food is if the RAF are involved.
 
#8
Speedy said:
Anyone who has ever worked on joint camps (Airport camp in Belize is a good example) will tell you just how good the food is if the RAF are involved.
I can veryfy this, was in the Royal Signals and spent time at JHQ, Heford, RAF Bruggen and MPA.

The food in JHQ is RAF food and i thought i had gone to paradise, so many choices, so much tallent, such "good quality" food, sent to 7 Sig Regt in Herford with RLC Chefs - Feck me, my tastebuds thought i had died. same shat every day for lunch too...Fish fingers, chips and beans OR Sausage roll, chips and Peas.. Not kidding, got sent to RAF Bruggen - Back up to JHQ standards and choices...had to run an errand for my OC swapping some telephones for stores back at 7 Sig Regt...had to take an oppo for heavy lifting...stopped off at the cook house on arrival - bearing in mind he had only every been at RAF Bruggen, Laarbruch and MPA (Aircrew Feeder), he was so embarressed at the cack on offer....we got something from the schnelly instead. MPA - Combi Mess....Trust me you can tell when pongo chefs are on the job...we all ate in the Aircrew feeder because it was RAF chefs, same ingredients....Much better food.

You want us to stop slagging off green chefs...easy.

Stop being "Cooks" start being "Chefs" take a bit of pride in your work and dont settle for anything less than Perfect. My Brother is a RAF Chef and his food is top notch, RN food is brilliant too, Pongo stuff is shite.

My Brother takes pride in his cooking. he takes the time to make sure its the best he can do and if it turns out cack he will put it right. not serve it anyway.

Worst food i ever had to be fair is the bio hazard served up by the civ cooks in the Tower block - Aldershite.

Rincewind
 
#9
There's a document called the PSO or Prison Service Order. It mandates the condition in which prisoners detained at HM pleasure live under. No great suprises if I were to tell you that prisoners on average get a bigger daily food allowance than soldiers.

I've seen some of the capabilities of our chefs at various catering comps within the Corps. I have to say some of the talent in the catering side of the Corps is second to none, and the food these guys are able to muster up when given the opportunity you would not feel ashamed serving at any named 5 star eaterie. On the whole the RAF do serve good nose-bag, there's no doubt about that, but befer we go comparing the RLC chefs to those in Betty's Flying Club it's worth remembering that there are notable differences in the conditions, kitchens, and requirements of each mess. While the army is the biggest service all "fresh" procurement is contracted locally and the quality of produce is dependant on what is turned out locally. There are no nationally let contracts for fresh fruit meat and veg because you couldn't write a specification that could guarantee the same standards nationally. It's the same as when you go to your local Asda, some have better fresh than others do depending on who supplies them.

Agree about Sodhexo, they should have stayed in France managing water pipes and sewers!
 
#11
BENNY2672 said:
AS IT SAYS ON A SOLDIERS PAY SLIP HE PAYS £3.20 A DAY FOR FOOD BUT WE ONLY GET £1.81 I DONT KNOW WHERE THE OTHER £1.39 GOES AND AS FOR THE NAVY THEY HAVE A FAR BIGGER BUDGET THAN WE DO BUT DONT KNOW WHY THEY DO :D :D :D
The master Chef has pocket'd it. Chefs......not only inept, but thieves as well!

(Don't the Navy live on Fish Fingers?)
 

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#13
While it may be that raff and scow cooks can produce the goods, it has to be borne in mind that RLC chefs also have to produce the goods in the field as well as the kitchen. In the days of Andy Caps Commandos (ACC) the efforts made by cooks on exercise or NI were fantastic and not many blokes envied their jobs, but appreciated the warm grub.

Don't forget also that the food you are served by the cooks is what has been given to them. Look a bit further up the command chain to see where the catering decisions are made.
 
#14
As the old saying goes "the Army gets good food until the cooks get at it" joking apart, some of the dishes served up by our Chefs/Cooks are pretty amazing when you take into account the quality of the food supplied , the conditions it is prepared in especially when in the field or on Ops .I am of the mind that when the food is well cooked ,well presented and served well , the Chef/Cooks should be applauded, its not very often that Ihave had to complain and before you start I,ve more than 22 in and been around a bit
Aye
Scouse
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#15
I have to say - back in my days with the Canadian Forces, you'd be well served to make nice with the cooks. In 8 years service in the CF, I always looked forward to the meals. Large portions, decent menu, and of a high standard. Even when civi's took over the kitchens, standards were maintained by the Corporals or Sergeants assigned as heads. The ones I met all seemed to have great pride and took pleasure in the service they provided - in all conditions (even the Winter Indoc field kitchens!).

Now I'm in the British Army, I have to say I am absolutely appalled at the service and standards of our culinary bretheren and their civilian counterparts.

I am saddened that our troops are fed slops by the people we serve and in some cases, by other soldiers.

If we are to be in top physical shape to do our jobs effectively, should the food we use to fuel ourselves not be of a higher calibre, prepared and served appropriately?
 
#16
On ex last year, at regt'l level, and we never saw the M chef at our Sqn location. He was too busy sorting his CR with the CO's meals. Asked QM to get the MChef out to location to show the young lads how to do more than can opening and nosh warming. No joy for 2 weeks.

If the old skills are't passed on whilst in the field, all the Chefs learn is to operate to Sodexho standards of packet opening when they work alongside them in the cookhouse.

Back in the Old Days ( yawn) the chefs got tons of respect when they cranked out something marvellous from 10 man. that's how to do it.
 
#17
Out of the amount you are charged for food. We do only get £1.81 the rest is taken back by the Government. In some large units (more so in combined messes) by consolidating the amount you have, the more you can buy and more you can afford to give.
I do agree that the standard of catering does seem to have slipped. I blame the top brass for the cuts we are all made to suffer and the rules imposed upon us. Some Snr NCO Chefs are so busy with paperwork that they have little enough time to spend babysitting the latest recruit who has been churned out of the box, Who if you ask didn't really join the Army to be a chef, Wanted to be a Pilot, RMP, Driver etc but failed to make it or messed up and then was given the option "Get out or transfer as a Chef"
So we get lumbered with quite a few staff that hate it.

I admire the staff that enjoy their job and do take pride in what they do and still put up with the abuse that's all to often thrown at them.

(JSMTC Indefatigable) has a great reputation for it's catering standard, and feed staff from all three services. All of whom slag their own unit Chefs off.

So anyway for those who do their jobs and love it I salute you and those who are doing the job as a substitute for what they really want, Get out, Get a life and get lost.
MC
 
#19
Some facts:

1. The remainder of the money above the £1.81 used for food goes towards paying for the fuel, lighting, eqpt, etc. used to produce the food. (Supposedly.)
2. The RLC Chef course is the hardest course in the British Army - harder than Selection, All Arms Commando Course and P Coy put together. Proof for this? No one has ever passed it!

Units can always adopt the RM approach to 'scran' - if it is crap, then the chefs get filled in!! Soon results in better food.

As in any trade, a bad workman always blames his tools - in the chef's case, the ingredients. Simply, good chefs produce good food, bad chefs produce bad food.
 
#20
Regain said:
Some facts:

1. The remainder of the money above the £1.81 used for food goes towards paying for the fuel, lighting, eqpt, etc. used to produce the food. (Supposedly.)
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Think you should check on this one! It is used primarily to supplement the Costs of ORP. Therefore the singlies supplement the Pads in the field. Hence the worries about PAYD as the MOD now does not know where it will find 30 million to cover the cost of this once PAYD rolls out over the entire field army. Glad i'm a pad!
 

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