Fools of the UK!!

#1
Just watching Sky news, Labour has taken the lead in opinion polls....Are the general populus that stupid!!....dont they realise why this govt has had to take the action it had to, none of us what cuts, but the more inteligent of us realise what has to be done!!

Fools!!
 

TheresaMay

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DirtyBAT
#2
The more intelligent of us realise that "intelligent" has two 'L's... :)
 
#3
Politics are cyclic - the Blue/Yellow (could that be Green??) coalition will just about get the economy gripped, but because they were meanies and cut spending, the people who actually bother to vote will go for the Red lot and it all starts again...
 
#4
Hardly surprising given the wall to wall news coverage given to Labour by Sky and BBC since Friday last week. Its always the same in conference season, however I believe that Labour are now coming to terms with the fact that Ed Milliband may not be what the party needed, and a period in opposition not experienced since Kinnock was leader is about to hit them. Labour being in the control of the unions is always something that keeps them in the political wilderness, and Ed Milliband is going to be no different to Neil Kinnock/Michael Foot.
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

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#5
As long as Labour has the BBC broadly rooting for them, they can push their line with a message weight that will counter anything anyone else puts out, that's a major reason why the election resulted in a hung parliament and why Labour's hanging in there now. Labour does not do constitutional restraint and was far too cute to let an asset like the Beeb fall into unfriendly hands. If anyone doubts this, compare and contrast BBC coverage of the Labour leadership campaign and election with the Conservative equivalents since Major. Then compare and contrast the coverage of sleaze in the Major Government, which even led to one of their own standing against a Tory MP, with their handling of the Blair and Brown administrations which were both more incompetent and corrupt by an order of magnitude. As long as a significant chunk of the electorate believe that the fiscal crisis is entirely the work of the banks and that the Tories are the banker's friends, this sort of poll result is inevitable. If the Coalition has any sense, it will clip the BBC's wings and embark on a programme to educate the masses about Labour's real culpability but it needs to get a lot more energised on the topic and it needs to do so fast.
 

TheresaMay

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DirtyBAT
#6
Did anyone see the live feed this morning on BBC news (about 0715?) - they had Andy Burnham on (Shadow Health), talking about how he voted for Dave instead, but wished him every success, everyone's behind Ed etc.

But when he started talking about how well Labour handled the 'economic crisis', even the newsreader seemed a little taken back and asked rather sarcastically, "So Labour did nothing wrong at all then?".

Apparently not it would seem. He admitted they'd made one or two errors of misjudgement, but mentioned nothing of ruining the country for 13 years, reckless spending, selling our gold reserves off at ridiculously low prices, dithering over Ghurkha's rights to stay in the UK, going to Iraq, etc etc.

People it seems, have very short memories. But for many years to come, I certainly wont be forgetting Labour's 'Midas Touch' - i.e. everything they touch turns to shit.
 

Biped

LE
Book Reviewer
#7
or David Milliband. Like I said on the other thread - Labour has a particular ability to elevate complete cretins to the top job, which works great for all the other parties, but sssshhh, don't tell them.
 

jim24

LE
Book Reviewer
#8
Anyone who believes that crap is a spindoctor's dream dummy, the BBC is a propaganda tool par-execellent who only this morning started a campaign to show that they did not waste £3 million on their coverage on the World cup,and that the England team are not a useless bunch of cnuts. When it comes to the Independent BBC nothing is as it seems and SKY is just telling us the world according to Rupert.
 

Biped

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#10
If one reads the body language, is one truly feeling the love?



Ed is saying: "I didn't think it would turn out like this brother, I'm really sorry ok?, Please?"

David is saying "Later, my little $&*"@ *&^$ Judas of a brother! Now f&*£@# smile!"
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

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#11
Meaningless poll.The Con/Libs are in power for at least 4 more years.So why worry about it now?
Because, based on the facts and historical precedents, this shouldn't be happening, particularly not before any cuts have been announced. Labour spent a lot of time rigging the field both constitutionally and with key public positions - think Stirrup and Blair. Whatever one thinks of their politics, they were a suberb machine for achieving and retaining power - it took the worst financial crisis since the 30's to call time on them and even now, as this poll shows, they have avoided much of the culpability for the UK's current position. These things do matter and if you wait four years before addressing them it will be too late. Once the public adopts an accepted view, it is fiendishly difficult to get them to revise it - and Labour knows that only too well which is why Burnham pretended it was all the fault of the banking crisis and Angela Eagle did the same with Paxman on Newsnight last week. Currently it's men against boys in the political communications fight and Cameron needs to get a grip.

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#12
Labour being in the control of the unions is always something that keeps them in the political wilderness, and Ed Milliband is going to be no different to Neil Kinnock/Michael Foot.
Didn't you mean "The unions being in control of Labour"?
 
#13
Meaningless poll.The Con/Libs are in power for at least 4 more years.So why worry about it now?
For me the worry is that people will in a short while be convinced that all the cuts & unemployment are the nasty tory/LD's fault, so vote for us liarbore types and we will try and bankrupt the country again!! and these arsseholes will vote them in.
 
#14
Doesn't take long for the great unwashed to forget what Gorden an Labour did to the UK Economy.
Anyway they have always known it was all Maggie's fault anyway.

john
 
#16
Democracy: a load of sheep voting for which wolf gets to eat them.
 
#17
Anyone who believes that crap is a spindoctor's dream dummy, the BBC is a propaganda tool par-execellent who only this morning started a campaign to show that they did not waste £3 million on their coverage on the World cup,and that the England team are not a useless bunch of cnuts. When it comes to the Independent BBC nothing is as it seems and SKY is just telling us the world according to Rupert.
The sooner the BBC is culled the better. Even Pravda has more even handed coverage of the news than the BBC now.
 
#18
Doesn't take long for the great unwashed to forget what Gorden an Labour did to the UK Economy.
Anyway they have always known it was all Maggie's fault anyway.

john
The problem is that Brown said he wouldn't touch benefits and the Tory's have rightly said "bollocks to that, back to work you sponging cnuts"

Right there is the increase in Liarbore support. Thankfully the dole scum can't be arrsed to get up and vote so hopefully won't make a blind bit of difference come the next election.
 
#19
I imagine the poll was conducted mostly amongst the Jeremy Kyle viewership, and the question was along the lines of "do you want the Tories to cut your benefits, or would you prefer the Labour Party to shower you with shiny gifts".

Control the sample, control the question, and you control the poll results.
 
#20
The problem is that Brown said he wouldn't touch benefits and the Tory's have rightly said "bollocks to that, back to work you sponging cnuts"

Right there is the increase in Liarbore support. Thankfully the dole scum can't be arrsed to get up and vote so hopefully won't make a blind bit of difference come the next election.
Indeed, that's what the Tories have said. However, I remain to be convinced they have the intestinal fortitude to slash and burn Benefits until the Jeremy Kyles are forced to either work or starve.

Nothing against the Tories, but I'll Believe It When I See It is my default response to any politician's promises...
 
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