Flying instead of driving?

I'm sure I read somewhere once (probably before JPA came in) that there was an allowance that you could claim if you flew somewhere instead of driving?
Am due to head up North for something soon, and it would be a hell of a lot quicker to fly than do battle with cars on the M1.

Can anyone shed light on this? Or was I dreaming?!
wg100 said:
I'm sure I read somewhere once (probably before JPA came in) that there was an allowance that you could claim if you flew somewhere instead of driving?
Am due to head up North for something soon, and it would be a hell of a lot quicker to fly than do battle with cars on the M1.

Can anyone shed light on this? Or was I dreaming?!
It's all travel warrants. You can claim back an allowance on car travel too, if you're on duty, and not in a military vehicle.
Try JSP 752, I'm havbing a skim through it now, but it seems to relate to travel allowances etc.
just had a read of the section regarding Air Travel, and I reckon it's a negatory on getting the flight paid for. Rail Warrants will be available from unit admin staff however. Good luck with the trip!
JSP 550: R420.105.1 - Use of Privately owned said:
Subject to this regulation service personnel who own, hire or borrow private aircraft and who are in possession of a current civil aircraft pilot's license for the aircraft type, may fly such aircraft on duty journeys in accordance with current pay and allowance regulations
This would seem to indicate that there is an allowance somewhere...
Just found this in JSP 752:

JSP 752 said:

04.0619. General. Any Service person who is in possession of a current civil pilot’s licence and who is not permanently or temporarily unfit to fly may be granted permission by their CO to fly privately-owned, hired, or borrowed aircraft on approved duty journeys instead of using other means of transport. Such permission is not to be given unless all of the following conditions are fulfilled:

a. The journey would otherwise have been permissible by private motor vehicle or authority has been given for a civil air flight.

b. The use of the aircraft must be covered by comprehensive insurance against accidents to the assured, against bodily injury to, or death of, third parties including passengers and against damage to the property of third parties including passengers. The pilot must also ensure that the insurance policy covers the use of the aircraft on official business and that it is not held to be invalidated by the carriage of official passengers in respect of whom an additional allowance is admissible but not paid. The policy must be suitably endorsed to this effect or an appropriate assurance in writing obtained from the insurers. Loss of, or damage to, the aircraft is to remain the responsibility of the owner and no claim on that account against the MOD is to be admitted. The pilot is, therefore, responsible for insuring the aircraft against loss or damage, or for obtaining an indemnity from the insurers of the hired or borrowed aircraft.

c. An undertaking must be obtained from the insurance company that it will indemnify the Crown in the event of a claim being made against the Crown as the insured’s employer, to the same extent as the pilot has agreed to indemnify the Crown, on the understanding that the insurers are allowed to retain control on the claim. The policy holder must, therefore, ensure that the insurance company includes a paragraph embodying this additional undertaking in any endorsement placed on the policy to cover risks when using the aircraft on official business.

d. The aircraft must have a valid Certificate of Airworthiness in the appropriate category issued by the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) or, for certain types such as Ultralights or Warbirds (former military aircraft), a Permit to Fly issued by a designated body on behalf of the CAA.

04.0620. Authority to use Privately Owned, Hired or Borrowed Aircraft. Authority is to be obtained from the CO before each individual flight is undertaken, in the form shown at Appendix 1 to Annex A of this Section from which it is to be noted that MOD Directorate of Safety and Claims (DS&C) are required to approve the insurance policy. The aircraft’s insurance policy must be submitted for approval by MOD DS&C every 12 months and remain valid at the time of any authorised flight. The completed document and signed undertaking are to be retained by the CO and a copy of the signed undertaking is to be forwarded to MOD DS&C prior to the flight.

04.0621. Service Personnel Carried as Duty Passengers. Permission may be granted by COs, in suitable cases, for Service personnel to be carried as duty passengers. In such cases, the certificate at Appendix 2 to Annex A to this section is to be completed. No passengers other than Service personnel travelling on duty are to be carried on duty journeys. The appropriate passenger allowance may be claimed in respect of each authorised official passenger for each air mile covered by the aircraft, not the notional road distance.

04.0622. Rate of MMA Permissible. MMA at ODR is permissible as detailed at paragraph 04.0605 as though the journey had been undertaken using a private motor vehicle. Where MMA at ODR is not permissible, MMA at PCR is to be claimed in accordance with 04.0609. The mileage is to be that actually covered by the aircraft and not the notional road distance, although any mileage travelled by private motor vehicle to reach the airfield of choice is permissible provided that the total mileage does not exceed that which would have been permissible if the journey had been completed solely by private motor vehicle by the most direct route. In overseas areas, where the use of a privately owned, hired or borrowed aircraft is authorised for a duty journey which would normally involve a sea or air passage, the amount refundable is to be restricted to that which would have been admissible had the journey been carried out by the normal method of travel.

04.0623. Associated Costs. The use of privately owned, hired or borrowed aircraft does not entitle the pilot to the free use of fuel, oil or other stores, any hire charges relating to the use of the aircraft, or the maintenance of the aircraft at public expense. There will be no entitlement to reclaim any charges for landing, navigation or parking.

04.0624. Limitations of the Regulations. For the purpose of a duty journey the provisions of this regulation are to apply to flights within the UK. They are not to apply to flights from the UK to an overseas theatre or vice-versa, or across overseas theatre boundaries.

04.0625. Flights Between the RWA and the Place of Duty. For the purpose of this regulation, flights by Service personnel between their RWA and their normal place of duty are not to be regarded as duty flights and are not eligible for MMA claims.

04.0626. Third Party Insurance Risks. It should be noted that:

a. The cover for third party risks must be for a minimum of £500,000 in respect of any one accident. Additionally, each passenger must be covered to the sum of £25,000.

b. The following exclusions, usually contained in third party insurance policies, may be accepted by MOD DS&C:

(1) Any person in the employment of the insured.
(2) Any member of the insured’s household.
(3) Bodily injury to any person whilst on board or whilst entering or leaving the aircraft, whether as a fare paying passenger or otherwise, provided that no passengers other than Service personnel travelling on duty are carried on duty journeys.
(4) Spectators at the aerodrome or flying ground at public aviation meetings, unless attendance at such meetings in a privately owned, hired or borrowed aircraft is on duty, when this risk must be specially covered.
Ahh, didn't realise you would actually be piloting the plane, I assumed you'd be flying as a passenger. That extract from JSP 752 seems to look positive!
I've done it - once, about 18 months ago!! Flew into RAF Halton for a meeting with 2POB. Argued it was a lot quicker in terms of transit time/ cost etc (had service rates for aircraft)..

Easier if you go from a Service flying club as the wet rates/hr for the ac are generally reasonable and all service flying club ac will be compliant as far as insurance etc. You can find a Grob 109 charge out rates as low as £50/hr wet at some service gliding clubs.

And its more fun!!
Yup, flying from the Lyneham flying club up to Disforth for the weekend as have a meeting in Catterick on Saturday!
1.5hr flight vs 6hr drive... bit of a no-brainer there, plus could do with the hours for my logbook!

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