Flare parachute wire

#1
Hi, total ignorant n00b here.

Recently I WAS NOT on a training ground with the Toys and I DID NOT see anything at all resembling a shmuli (how the hell do you spell that) [the little hand held twist and pop light goes up, tap tap, dead kill the enemy flare on a parachute thing] which was burnt out and I DID NOT borrow any part of it. That's illegal, right?

However, if I had, I would have noticed that the wire used to attach the burning bit to the floating parachute bit was made of string and wire, basically the toughest stuff I've ever felt. Not that I've felt it/got some at home.

Anyway, I was wondering if that stuff had a name and if you could buy it anywheresomething similar to it. Just to clarify, I'm not looking to buy the flare, of the hand-held twist and pop bit, or anything thats goes bang, I just want some of the wire, because it's ARD.

Thanks.

(also, can anyone tell me the proper name of this device, googling shmuli/schmuli/shmully etc isn't coming up with anything...)

(also it may not be hand held it might come out the hot end of a 51mm but I think not)
 
#5
I wouldn't worry about it, I've taken loads from the area's as long as they don't still have burny firey bits still attached, then they're just someones 'handerchief' which you found, honest M'Lud.
My kids' Action Men have had more Para training than the whole of the Helicopter Dismount Brigade put together
 
#7
Thanks for the Schermuly link. :D

ir you are talking about a trip flare, try cat gut.
Sorry I'm not, but at least I know now, thanks.

I wouldn't worry about it, I've taken loads from the area's
Haha, I don't worry. Totally unworried! It had a "burny bit" but my Leatherman type thing saw to that! If I leant out all the kit in my house back to the army we'd probably have conquered America by now... :/


No, that looks more like tape kinda stuff. The stuff I'm on about is like string, but with wire interwoven into it.... Hmmm... perhaps I'll take a photo of the thing (that I don't have) and post it up here. Wait. Out.
 
#10
Try Pains Wessex as a manufacturer.
 
#11
Which reminds me. Somebody had been chucking military concealment smoke canisters about the other day. Not the sort of thing you see on the streets of Fulham. I was wondering if they were bought or proffed.
 
#12
No, that looks more like tape kinda stuff. The stuff I'm on about is like string, but with wire interwoven into it.... Hmmm... perhaps I'll take a photo of the thing (that I don't have) and post it up here. Wait. Out.
Alright, so the picture you posted was indeed a "Schermuly" officially known as
Rocket Hand Fired Illuminating Parachute L5A4
ADAC: 12701-11
NSN: 1340-99-966-2984

So I've looked at pictures of that and have come to the conclusion that the wire I'm on about is off of an 81mm Illum round between the burning bit and the parchute. (which you can buy, or just look at a photo of, here: PARACHUTE FROM 81MM ILLUM MORTAR - SpecialistAuctions.com Rare, vintage and collectables online auctions)

So my next/last question is, does anyone know what kind of wire that is/if you can buy it/"borrow" it from stores in quantity? (rather than just cutting it off the parachutes that you find in the Welsh countryside, which gives you about 9 inches of it per parachute catch - not really a good plan...)

Cheers.
 
#13
What do you want to use it for? Its strength or fire resistance or both?
 
#14
Which reminds me. Somebody had been chucking military concealment smoke canisters about the other day. Not the sort of thing you see on the streets of Fulham. I was wondering if they were bought or proffed.
In no way did the granular contents of smoke grenades ever get put in Birmingham nightclub ashtrays. Not at all :wink:
 
#16
What do you want to use it for? Its strength or fire resistance or both?
I reckon he's equipping his rape van.
That is entirely correct, need something that won't come undone and can't be cut by the knives I tend to use in foreplay etc. Also, I occassionally like to burn people erotically, and want to make sure that they remind tied up.

I would use you standard handcuffs but I quite like to see some wrist. Wrists are hot.
 
#17
That is entirely correct, need something that won't come undone and can't be cut by the knives I tend to use in foreplay etc. Also, I occassionally like to burn people erotically, and want to make sure that they remind tied up.

I would use you standard handcuffs but I quite like to see some wrist. Wrists are hot.
Erm, thats not strictly accurate.

Mainly for the strength, but also the thin-ness, and the knowledge that it will prabably never break. Normal string gets old and frays, para cord would be too thick and bulky, wire is obviously not gonna work.

I just fancy some tbh. (Some of the stuff I harvested from one parachute is currently attached in a loop to my knife, for example)

Or can someone suggest a similar alternative?
 
#18
Erm, thats not strictly accurate.

Mainly for the strength, but also the thin-ness, and the knowledge that it will prabably never break. Normal string gets old and frays, para cord would be too thick and bulky, wire is obviously not gonna work.

I just fancy some tbh. (Some of the stuff I harvested from one parachute is currently attached in a loop to my knife, for example)

Or can someone suggest a similar alternative?
AS well as being a dangerous sex pest, who habitually strays onto Army training grounds in the hope of proffing MoD kit you appear to be Bi-polar - you're arguing with yourself.

The trip wire attached to parachute flares and whatnot was the stuff I'd try to get my hands on when I was a youth. That stuff and a copy of Lofty Wiseman's book was all I needed to keep the domestic cat population in check.
 

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