Fitzroy 8th June 1982

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  1. As it’s the 8th June please take a moment to remember that the Sir Galahad and Sir Tristram came under attack and were bombed at Fitzroy while the Welsh Guards are waiting to disembark.
    55 were seriously wounded ,51 died and 38 of the dead were Welsh Guards they were following us and the Gurkhas as part of the 5 Infantry Brigade.

    Spare a moment please to remember them their, families and survivors

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  2. I remember watching on TV as a young boy, tragic loss from a couple of very good regt's.

  3. 12 yrs old at the time, but the memory of the news is etched in my mind.

    We do, and will, honour and remember them - the living and the dead.
  4. One of my strongest memories is of the entire battalion opening up with every weapon available at Pucaras or Etendades flying past after, I think, the bombing of the Taffs. Not sure if we brought any down but always like to think we gave some back for the damage to our comrades.

    Cymru am Byth boys.
  5. Didn't the Welsh Guards officers keep the Bn on board because it was cosier than on land? I seem to remember a documentary where the Captain of the Sir Galahad was fuming with them about it.

    RIP all those that died down there.
  6. Dear Boy, I think you will find they were Skyhawks.
  7. At a time when we have another thread on the site debating the merits of helmet-cam video footage from Afghanistan, it is sobering to remember the incredible TV footage we were receiving from the Falklands all those years ago. Yes, it was time delayed (for reasons of both security and technology), but some of the footage was eye watering when it was eventually aired on the TV. I was a young Cpl serving in Germany at the time, but still vividly remember the footage of this incident. The other image that sticks in my mind from the time was a soldier being stretchered away with what was clearly a missing leg - very graphic and almost unheard of at the time. How times have changed!
    RIP to all the fallen in the Falklands.
  8. Falklands War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Sir Tristram sailed on the night of 6 June and was joined by Sir Galahad at dawn on 7 June. Anchored 1,200 feet (370 m) apart in Port Pleasant, the landing ships were near Fitzroy, the designated landing point.

    The landing craft should have been able to unload the ships to that point relatively quickly, but confusion over the ordered disembarcation point (the first half of the Guards going direct to Bluff Cove) resulted in the senior Welsh Guards infantry officer aboard insisting his troops be ferried the far longer distance directly to Port Fitzroy/Bluff Cove. The alternative was for the infantrymen to march via the recently repaired Bluff Cove bridge (destroyed by retreating Argentine combat engineers) to their destination, a journey of around seven miles (11 km).

    On Sir Galahad's stern ramp there was an argument about what to do. The officers on board were told they could not sail to Bluff Cove that day. They were told they had to get their men off ship and onto the beach as soon as possible as the ships were vulnerable to enemy aircraft. It would take 20 minutes to transport the men to shore using the LCU and Mexeflote. They would then have the choice to walk the 7 miles to Bluff Cove or wait until dark to sail there. The officers on board said they would remain on board until dark and then sail. They refused to take their men off the ship. They possibly doubted that the bridge had been repaired due to the presence on board Sir Galahad of the Royal Engineer Troop whose job it was to repair the bridge. The Welsh Guards were keen to rejoin the rest of their Battalion who were potentially facing the enemy without their support. They had also not seen any enemy aircraft since landing at San Carlos and may have been over confident in the air defences. Ewen Southby-Tailyour gave a direct order for the men to leave the ship and go to the beach. The order was ignored.

    The longer journey time of the landing craft taking the troops directly to Bluff Cove and the squabbling over how the landing was to be performed caused enormous delay in unloading. This had disastrous consequences. Without escorts, having not yet established their air defence, and still almost fully laden, the two LSLs in Port Pleasant were sitting targets for two waves of Argentine A-4 Skyhawks.

    Regardless of what happened, it wasn't the fault of the poor sods who died on the ship. I was 14 during the Falklands war and I spent long hours watching the unfolding events on a little black and white portable tv in my bedroom. I wept like a baby when Galahad was hit, I watched the casualties coming ashore and it broke my heart.

    There is a memorial to those who died near the cenotaph in my town. It also includes the names of two sergeants of G Squadron "Them" and I always stop and look at the names as I pass and remember the sad little twat weeping because 50 blokes he never knew died in a ship half a world away. I am quite proud of that 14 year old cry baby, I like the fact that he cared that much and I only hope my offspring are the same when they grow out of watching Ceebeebies.
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  9. I remember that well, the guy was put onto the decking of a waiting CVRT before being choppered out.
  10. I remember seeing the ship on fire on the news and the orange life rafts being gently moved along by the helicopters. Remembering those who died and those who survived as it hasn't been easy for them. One day the truth will come out.
  11. I to remember the events described above along with the bewildered faces of the chinese crews of the RFA's. The bravery of the Wessex and Sea King pilots around the blazing wrecks with ammo cooking off still ranks as one of the most skillful things I have ever seen
  12. I like many others posting here was but a youngster when this happened. I remember well the TV footage of the incident and watched in amazement at the skill of the RN Helicopter pilots.

    This was a preventable tragedy and hard lesson learned. No blame can be attached to those who paid the price.

    Less we forget.
  13. Ask the Engineers, they may tell you!
  14. Cheers Arters, They were hopefully scrap by the time they got past us!
  15. Not forgotten all those who lost their lives that fateful day,RIP Boys !

    I remember patrolling around the Turf lodge and paddy had painted "Viva Argentina" on the walls,Bastards ! However we got some revenge !