first post and begging already!

#1
Hi All, im sorry to say my first post on here and already begging!!
I am chairman of the Powys and Mid Wales Military vehicle trust and we are putting a military vehicle show on the last weekend in June, all money raised is being donated to the South Atlantic medal Association (Wales)........this is where the begging starts.......we are after info on someone/people who can cover the first aid for us , we have very little money and as all money raised is going to be donated we need either first aid cover to be free or as cheap as possible, we did try 202 field ambulance but apparantly they cant deal with civvys?.......the show is in Oswestry Shropshire has anyone any thoughts? also looking for some recruitment teams....have got Shropshire Yeomanry coming along so far.......
 
#3
Hi All, im sorry to say my first post on here and already begging!!
I am chairman of the Powys and Mid Wales Military vehicle trust and we are putting a military vehicle show on the last weekend in June, all money raised is being donated to the South Atlantic medal Association (Wales)........this is where the begging starts.......we are after info on someone/people who can cover the first aid for us , we have very little money and as all money raised is going to be donated we need either first aid cover to be free or as cheap as possible, we did try 202 field ambulance but apparantly they cant deal with civvys?.......the show is in Oswestry Shropshire has anyone any thoughts? also looking for some recruitment teams....have got Shropshire Yeomanry coming along so far.......
Event First Aid » St John Cymru Wales I know its obvious but give them a try:thumright:
 
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RAF Shawbury - Contact us

The Community Relations Officer's number is on that page. He will be able to tell what is in the art of the possible. The RAF Regt Flt and the Crewman Instructors will have q'd first aid instructors, there might even be a paramedic or 2 floating about.
 
#11
Have you thought of asking a local company to sponsor the first aid cover for the event? Free punlicity etc.

As a side note, SJA charge £6 an hour for personnel (min of 3 hours) plus 40p a mile if they attend in there own vehicles. You are £30 an hour if you want an ambulance as well. Not sure where the £11 came from as every County has the same charge out rate.

Now the interesting bit...public events do not need first aid cover. Some local authorities have an Events Safety Group and they look at events and offer advice but....this is directly taken from the governments own website...

...."ESG’s main objectives are:
• To promote high levels of safety and welfare at events by giving advice
• To promote good practice in safety and welfare planning for events
• To ensure events cause minimal adverse impact on the local population and surrounding
infrastructure
Its purpose is to meet regularly to consider forthcoming events and to give advice to organisers. All
comments and observation made by ESG are advisory. It has no statutory compulsion and organisers are
under no obligation to submit information, attend ESG meetings, or follow ESG’s advice."

....and that includes first aid cover.

The only "rules" regarding First Aid at a public event is that an employer must provide first aid for its staff. So, if you ran a security company who provided stewards for a rock concert, the only first aid cover required BY LAW is that to your own staff.

Not sure if any of that helps..but in summary, get someone to sponsor the first aid bit, or, just don't have.
 
#12
Unless things have changed radically since I stopped serving, military assistance to events like this was stopped unless part of a regional recruiting plan. My Rugby Club used to get the lads from the RE MWF down to resurface our approach road & do some other work about the place on the basis of a few slabs for the boys & maybe a charitable donation (I don't know the details) and the Boss of the MWF saw this as a goor PR thing as well as providing training on a basic Engineering task. Part of the reason was that the Army should not be taking work away from Civvy businesses & charities.
 
#13
I'd be VERY careful about assuming that just because it says on a Govt website that you don't have to have first aid cover by law that it's OK not to have any! If someone gets hurt and sues the organisers (you do have insurance don't you?) then your insurers will not be happy if the injury was made worse by a delay in first aid treatment.

Shropshire Council have an event guide with a handy checklist and their page says they will offer free advice to organisers. Start here Event Safety – Shropshire Council
 
#14
Are common or garden FAW (first aid at work) not able to do 1st aid (there'll be 1000's of us about) or do you need something more suited to a public event (St John etc?)
 
#15
Got the wrong end of the stick completely with the thread title. Thought it was going to be a brag about smashing some NAAFI munter immediately after introduction.
 
#17
Is that because St John feel you will earn enough money to pay for their services? If that is the answer they are giving take point that they themselves are also a charity and providing such cover is how they raise money for lots of their other endeavours.

If you genuinely cant afford their prices quote their charter at them, it states somewhere that no one should go without a qualified first aider if they can help it.
 
#18
I would pay if I could have a ride in one of the willys jeeps, the pontiac silver special staff car and one of the T34s.....but I won't/can't be there so I won't. Oh and you are welsh too.

Although you may want to think about charging people for a quick ride in one of the vehicles to pay for the first aid.




Your website sucks to suckery by the way.
 
#19
Thanks for the replies guys , have tried begging the St Johns ambulance but not a chance , any other thoughts?
Did you try the Council Event Safety people? Did they have any thoughts?
Ask your insurers?

Ultimately it's up to YOU to do a risk assessment (yes it can be very simple, it's not "H&S gone mad" before anyone says it is) and decide what cover you need and the make arrangements to get it. You can use people who are FAW qualified but you do need to consider the insurance implications of doing this - hence me saying talk to your insurer.

I do H&S for a living but I'm not in your part of the world or I'd offer more help.
 
#20
Did you try the Council Event Safety people? Did they have any thoughts?
Ask your insurers?

Ultimately it's up to YOU to do a risk assessment (yes it can be very simple, it's not "H&S gone mad" before anyone says it is) and decide what cover you need and the make arrangements to get it. You can use people who are FAW qualified but you do need to consider the insurance implications of doing this - hence me saying talk to your insurer.

I do H&S for a living but I'm not in your part of the world or I'd offer more help.
Yes have been in touch with Shropshire council who basically turned around and said i need event first aid cover or theres no show!
 

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