Firing foreign weapons on ranges ...

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vespa

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does anybody know of a good ranges where you can hire or have a go at some unusual weapons ie AK47, Siminovs, Uzi, HKs etc , i dont think there are any in the UK, so what about on the continent ie Spain, Cyprus etc...........
 

OldSnowy

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Used to do this annually at Hythe, using the (then) NITAT weapons, but H&S seem to have buggered this up in the last few years, in that only those that have been UK proofed are allowed. If you are going on Ops, however, you can do it. Try them - they've got the lot (AKs, SKS, Garand, MP40, Bren, Luger, broom-handle Mauser, SLR, Uzi, etc., etc), with ammo, and all Free! Only drawback is you've got to do an Op tour straight afterwards, but that shouldn't be a problem for anyone keen enough to want to fire these things.
 
#4
I have a German 22 air rifle with a Swizz made telescopic sight (try saying telescopic when piissed). Your welcome to come to me gaff and fire it out the back window at the squirrels.
 
#5
Give the pattern room a call, well worth a visit.

Granted you can't fire them but they have a big bag of shooters and the staff are a bunch of clued up mothers, but not spotterish at all.

I think it has moved from Nottingham to Leeds armouries.

I think Sect 5 weapons, ie semi auto rifles and now pistols are pretty much banned Europe wide. Not sure where you would go to fire that sort of kit.

I did however begin the process of elimination for you and can confirm to you that the toffee apple stall at No4 Abingdon St. Cleveleys doesn't have the facility to fire automatic weapons :D
 
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mighty_doh-nut said:
I did however begin the process of elimination for you and can confirm to you that the toffee apple stall at No4 Abingdon St. Cleveleys doesn't have the facility to fire automatic weapons :D
That is quite weird Mighty, because I looked in the works heating room, and there was no weapons or range. Very, very, spooky.
 
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My old mans potting shed is completely free of any weaponry and any signs of usage as a range.

I did however find a spider and a rotting flip flop.
 
#8
Just returned from the staff canteen. I stood on a dinning table and shouted in a loud but firm voice 'has anyone seen any automatic weapons lying around, or indeed, seen a rifle range within the building'. No one answered. I will have a look in my garden shed when I get home.
 
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vespa

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cheers guys for all your tips and jokes :wink: , looks like the only place i could shoot all sorts would be USA they worship guns there , in fact there is a town where a local by-law made it compulsory for everybody to have guns 8O
 
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vespa a little trip to forida and can fire all the autos you like...will cost ya, but the range I go to has a few to choose from Styer, M-16, MP-5, Ak-47, Uzi, etc...

Yes we love our guns...a throw back to the days when we asked the Brits to leave :D
 
#11
We were going anyway, we were bored and you all stank something chronic.

Ahhh the days of the Empire

Has the US ever had an empire 8) 8) 8)
 
#12
Nope...but then again we never had an inbreed monarcy either 8O

mighty_doh-nut said:
We were going anyway, we were bored and you all stank something chronic.
Only to find out that the stank was caused by your presence :D :D
 
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ctauch said:
Nope...but then again we never had an inbreed monarcy either 8O
Just a shaven primate as leader :D :D
 
#14
Getting back to the interesting-hardware-on-civilian ranges bit ... I was at Bisley a month or so back out at the 1000 yard point on Stickledown and off to my left (and in front of me - brave...) there was a group from Praetorian shooting at a brick wall with some sort of fullbore rifle and at a car door with a HK MP5K. Was it automatic ? it certainly was.

So - if you can find the hardware it looks as if the NRA will let you shoot it.
 
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vespa said:
does anybody know of a good ranges where you can hire or have a go at some unusual weapons ie AK47, Siminovs, Uzi, HKs etc , i dont think there are any in the UK, so what about on the continent ie Spain, Cyprus etc...........
There are plenty of this type of thing in Latvia. They do all in tours over a weekend and you get training and firing in with it, and travel and accomodation. It's about £400. I was offered a job there, but would you want to live in Latvia? Even if you were tooled up.

Apparently it's very good and very professionally run. Look over Google for bodyguard training and they are the same companies that run it.
 
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HK MP5K. Was it automatic ? it certainly was.

So - if you can find the hardware it looks as if the NRA will let you shoot it.
You should keep that quiet or whoever was in charge could be in deep do do. Civvies firing anything above a .22 rumfire on semi-auto, never mind full auto, can go down for up to ten years, regardless of where it was. There's no dispensation except for official defence bodies and members.
 
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vespa

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ctauch said:
vespa a little trip to forida and can fire all the autos you like...will cost ya, but the range I go to has a few to choose from Styer, M-16, MP-5, Ak-47, Uzi, etc...
have you got a link or address/opening times of that range and cost etc in florida ? mite combine it with a holiday there too :wink:
cheers
vespa
 
#18
http://www.knightshooting.com/index.htm

In the tampa bay area...I am attending tactical shooting course (hand gun)there this Sunday if you need more info let me know and I will try and get it for ya...there are a couple of other ranges in the area that also offer full auto shoots.
 
#19
Belgium allows all sort of military hardware there was a british shooting club that used to go once a month ofr the weekend even had minimis.
The Swiss like there firepower as well.
Or just pop along to the Ukraine load up and head up to liverpool or Berminghnam for sove live fire practice nobody really care who you shoot up there :twisted:
 

Mr Happy

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Shotgun said:
HK MP5K. Was it automatic ? it certainly was.

So - if you can find the hardware it looks as if the NRA will let you shoot it.
You should keep that quiet or whoever was in charge could be in deep do do. Civvies firing anything above a .22 rumfire on semi-auto, never mind full auto, can go down for up to ten years, regardless of where it was. There's no dispensation except for official defence bodies and members.
Actually that's not quite right Shotgun. I know a man who's the armourer for several police forces and a guest armourer here and there who's got a collection of weapons that would make you wince. Churchills Tommy Gun, one of the MP5's that went into the embassy, Sten Gun serial number 00005 etc (and when I say etc I mean 100's of weapons)

All quite legit on his section 5 firearms license. I may have told this story elsewhere on ARRSE once but I was on a range day and I approached said armourer and said something along the lines of "I can't help but feel the Steyr Aug would be better than these SA80's" and he produced the barrel and then the body out of his armourers bag at his side and said "like this". My jaw hit the ground.

With regards to the original post I have the following comments:

Roughly it's bastard impossible to shoot un-proofed weapons on military ranges. In practice the range wardens are on side, it's the official stamp that's the bugger. We were trying to use some SF weapons (Minimi/DeMarco) which aren't deemed normal green army recently and despite the fact that they were firing 5.56 there was nobody willing to stick their neck out and say yes that was OK.

That said, at Bisley this year the FIDF, yanks and Irish were 'honours only' with R4's and Steyrs so who says what where???

On NRA grounds you can pretty much have a ball. I believe the Vickers MMG Fan Club fired some 5,000,000 rounds over 17 days out of one weapon once. Contact the NRA for rules.

As to getting your hands on interesting weapon systems, Georgia/Florida are quite easy and if you search the www for gun clubs in Belgium you should have some fun too. Obviously take your cheque book because rocking and rolling on full auto is less fun when it costs you $5 a magazine.

If you are a MOD90 carrier still then there are loads of extra shoots in europe to turn up at, the RFA (Reserve Forces Association) and its regular counterpart exists to encourage inter service and inter country training and is basically a long list of jollies to places where you can get pissed and shoot. Just get 2-3 other members from your unit and you're away.

If anybody wants some more information I can provide some starting points or answer some common queries.
 

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