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This willhappen...

Some of you will be pleased to know that all Crabs being deployed are being issued 4 extra sets of C95 and 8 OG T-shirts!

The well known fire-retardent qualities of this clothing aside, you can bet that Tommy Atkins will be getting absolutley no extra and will have to make do with his  smoke damaged stuff (with holes) for months afterwards.
Seen four Green Goddesses on the back of some trailers heading south on the M1 yesterday.............old, green and very tired looking..........but they have got some new and natty dayglo red 'go faster' stripes........I could think of no other word than pitiful.  

As 'crab air' have their own fire service, will they be utilising this resource or will that remain on airfield duty?  
Anybody had the misfortune of having a pair of 95 trousers set alight.  Picture a mantle, ok until you knock them.  Personally I would much rather my troops wear their old temperates which will ofer considerable better protection.  In fact when on crowd-pleaser ops in the Emerald Toilet I don't think I let any of my tps wear 95 for exactly that reason.

Also nice to know that the crabs CML is better than ours.
having had the pleasure of driving a green goddess before :-[ i have to ask why does the mod insist on keeping these relics from the 1950s. when the fire service update why dont we buy there old engines,for just these times.
Money you will say,what deos it cost to keep museum pieces on the road ,i say.
what will it cost in lives when these relics race down the road at 30mph(10 round a corner or it will fall over)and arrive just in time to damp down the ashes.
If its the same as the last time these things came out ,it will be like a cross between a will hay film and the key stone cops.
If it wasnt frightening it would be hilarious-And the forces will take the brunt of the critisism again. :mad:  
The armed forces can't afford new fire fighting plant, it's spent all its money on issuing the rockapes with extra CS 95
Tis true - The Crabs have asked for 8 T shirts and 4 lots of CS95 and I know the guy who told the Crabs to FCUK OFF   - tee hee hee.    ;D

By the way did you know that both the Crabs and the Skates have ordered badges to put on the back of their fire fighting kit saying 'Crab' and 'Skate' (or something similar...)
For once, you can't blame the MoD here.  They don't own the Green Goddesses - they were bought ni 1950  by the Home Office when we had a Civil Defence organisation, and are now owned by the 'Office of the Deputy Prime Minister', whatever that/they are.

Big question is - why not use the nice red/dayglo ones (all called Dennis?) that Councils own.  Or does the Union own them?  
Yep,  then we can take them apart remove the engines replace it with a small hamster and cut the ladders in half.

Isn’t that what the MOD normally does with kit that works just balls it up


It now appears that units currently deployed on operations and in BATUS are being recovered early to commence training for the Green Goddess Wacky Races. What on earth are all the non-Warrior inf bns doing week in week out??


The Office of the Deputy Prime Minister is non other than 2 Jags One Punch Prescot.

We would have had lots of new Fire Engines but he needed the money for another Jag so his wifes hair did not get blown about in Blackpool.
I have just heard that a Guards Battalion which has just returned from Bosnia has just had its Post Opporational Tour Leave cancelled, all 4 weeks of it, they are going fire fighting instead.

Of course the chain of command will say that they will get it in the future - fat chance with NI training starting in the new year and that is hardly a sop to all the wives and girlfriends who are happily cancelling those holidays they have been looking forward to for the last six months.

I can't wait to see the retention figures.

Thank god I am now a civi with ZERO regrets


Here's a good one I heard yesterday:

There are units returning from six months in the Balkans and losing their POTL so that units already warned off for OP FRESCO can be released to start NI training in December.  Anyone ever spent December at NITAT??


whee did the fireman's union get that spare Green Goddess from?  We'll be needing that.

Can't help but think that the firemen are coming over as a bunch of money grabbing gits, and the squaddies as good honest blokes trying to do their best.  I've already seen on Sky News someone asking "how much do the squaddies get paid, and is it enough?"   HOORAY!

Ch'ching!        ;)  


Why do we have to use the Green Goodess?

Surely it would make more sense to use the existing engines......oops sorry, perhaps I am aplying some logic here.


Cash Old Chum,
This has been investigated somewhere else in our ARRSE.  
The main reason we can't have the good fire-engines is.....get  ready for this.....Health and Safety.  We're not qualified to save lives with efficient kit.  No, no, we have to do it with museum pieces.
Firefighters have voted to walk out on a national strike.
The Fire Brigades Union (FBU) has confirmed its 50,000 members voted nine to one in favour of action.

The first walkout will begin at 0900 BST on 29 October and end at 0900 BST on 31 October.

Firefighters are demanding a 40% pay rise, which would see salaries for fully qualified staff rise to about £30,000.

I believe the firefighters should not go on strike, as do the public

Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott  
Their local authority employers have rejected the demand and are offering a 4% increase as part of an interim deal.

The UK Government set up an independent review to come up with proposals for improving the pay and conditions of firefighters. However, it is not scheduled to report until December.

The FBU must give seven days' notice of any strike action.

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Knock-on affect

The army is on stand-by to step in.

Strikes could last up to eight days and could have a knock-on affect on tube services in London.

Firefighters want a 40% pay rise

Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott and local authority employers have made last-minute pleas for the FBU to postpone strike action and to wait for the independent review report.

Mr Prescott warned that a walkout would put lives in danger and he called on firefighters to think again.

"A national fire strike would be dangerous and damaging," he said.

"We will put troops in to provide emergency cover but it will not be a replacement service.

"I believe the firefighters should not go on strike, as do the public."

Andy Gilchrist, the FBU's general secretary attacked the deputy prime minister's position.

"John Prescott's comments are astonishing. He led the rush by cabinet ministers only last year to vote themselves a 40% rise.

"We have been placed in an appalling position. All the government has to do is start genuine pay talks. It is that simple."

'Risk to life'

Sir Jeremy Beecham, chairman of the Local Government Association, which represents the firefighters' employers, had urged the unions to wait for the results of the review.

Before the ballot outcome was announced, he told the BBC: "It cannot be claimed that the military will always be able to cope.

"There really must be a serious risk to life and to property if this unnecessary strike goes forward and that's why we are urging the union to wait just eight weeks and see the outcome of the review.

"If they're still not satisfied, they still have an option of going ahead with the dispute, but we have guaranteed that we would meet the claim if approved by the review body and back-date it to the beginning of November, which is the relevant date."

Local authority employers said they were "incredulous" that the union has voted to strike now, rather than wait for the outcome of the review.

The employers said that if the FBU's pay demand was repeated across the public sector, the basic rate of income tax would have to rise by 20%, or 3.9p in the pound.

Ted George, chairman of the local authority employers, said the pay claim was "unrealistic, unaffordable, unreasonable and unjustified".


The full list of proposed strike dates are as follows:

0900 hrs 29th October to 0900 hrs 31st Oct (48 hrs)

0900 hrs 2nd November to 0900 hrs 4th Nov(48 hrs)

0900 hrs 6th November to 0900 hrs 14th Nov(8 days)

0900 hrs 22nd November to 0900 hrs 30th Nov(8 days)

0900 hrs 4th December to 0900 hrs 12th Dec(8 days)

0900 hrs 16th December to 0900 hrs 24th Dec (8 days)

Nice !! :eek:


Its all one great big bluff!
the MOD paid the fireman a sum of money to say they are going on strike, just to give us some practice fighting fires with the green goddeses, i mean we´ll end up taking them to Iraq to fight the oil well fires, come on you guys look at the bigger picture. 8) 8) 8) 8)
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