Firearms Licencing in the News again...

Gotta love sensationalist reporting. I think in the current climate in the UK, kitchen knives appear to be more of a problem and you don't need a background check or certificate from the Polis to buy those....
 
Sadly Yardley's comment is typical of many in the shooting community - I don't do that discipline, can't see the point, so I don't care if it's banned. Not realising that every incremental ban chips away closer to his beloved side by sides.
 

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It seems The Times has gone full Daily Wail this morning on UK Firearms Licensing laws. Apparently in the UK we can buy military "style" shotguns online that look like AK47s and that can fire up to 10 shots without reloading with just a background check and "good reason".

Military‑style firearms for sale in British shops

Unfortunately I don't subscribe to this quality broadsheet, but would nevertheless be keen to know how many such shotguns these intrepid journalists of good character were able to buy online with just a background check and the good reason of filling some space on the front page.
It's still an Aussie sensation rag, same shifty owner as the Sun.
Identical political aims but a different tgt demographic.
 

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Sadly Yardley's comment is typical of many in the shooting community - I don't do that discipline, can't see the point, so I don't care if it's banned. Not realising that every incremental ban chips away closer to his beloved side by sides.
Anything Yardley writes smacks of look at me!

There is a reason I dont buy newspapers or subscribe to them; Journalists.
 

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Anything Yardley writes smacks of look at me!
In a (then) new magazine edited by an ex-OR, the Pope had a column and insisted on a full page portrait to ensure anyone not currently conversant with the "gentleman" would know his face.

I think the image was reposted as Know Your Enemy.
 
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Reminiscent of a stunt in Germany a couple of years ago. SOP when dealing with runaway cows etc is to call out a hunter to deal with it. Two GCP had a much better idea when confronted with a wild boar that was on the rampage in somebodys house. They tried to kill it using 9mm, quite a bit of 9mm. Result one very p1ssed off piggy and two coppers exiting the house at warp speed.
Britain does not have a monopoly of brain surgeons in police uniform.
Perhaps they need Canadian Hunting advice..

When controlling large wild animals with less than .30 rifle... file off the foresight and grease the barrel...
 
This is the old showman's licence issue..

Basically it allows a .22 shooting gallery to exist without the restrictions placed on conventional section 1 shooting activities. Historically it arose because of pressure from the showman's guild when the original firearms licence was introduced. At the time, .22 rifle ranges, usually using .22shorts were a standard feature of travelling fairs.

Frankly it is not much used now, however it does allow a temporary .22 range to be set up and operated in such a way as to allow the public to "have a go". There has, to the best of my knowledge, never been a security issue with this type of activity, and the Police have always been aware of such ranges. If they have an issue with how a specific range is being run, they have plenty of provisions to intervene and deal with it. That they have not done so indicates to me that they have a weak or non existent issue with the case in point.

My view is that the Showman's Licence, along with the rest of the firearms acts, needs to be brought up to date, but that it does fill a valid and useful purpose. The problem with the existing Sect 1 target shooting regime is that it is very inflexible and seems to have been deliberately designed to prevent people being introduced into the activity.

I would suggest that the source of the Mail article is almost certainly the Police, who are yet again seeking to influence public opinion and firearms law.. This is both unconstitutional and unfair..
 
I would suggest that the source of the Mail article is almost certainly the Police, who are yet again seeking to influence public opinion and firearms law.. This is both unconstitutional and unfair..
So pretty much standard police procedure.
 
The showground thing was raised on Monday evening at the HBSA legislative update. It doesn't affect any of us but the view is that it will be used to stop have a go clay pigeon shooting and estate rifle rules. So even if you aren't prohibited in law from ownership you will be prohibited from even touching anything without a license!
 
Little way off topic, it's been a while since I purchased a wall hanger, but I fancy a antique Blunderbus to go up on the wall above my bookshelf. What is the current legislation with buying an item like that, if it's over a 100 years old is it still exempt from licening laws? (for now)
 
Basically if its a genuine blackpowder muzzle loader or an inert replica then its antique, the age cut off isn't a rolling one with firearms unlike furniture and art!
Muzzleloaders are usually ok but there are enough fakes out there that are old enough to be antique anyway. Breech loaders can be exempt by dint of sect 58(2) obsolete calibres and there is a published list!
 
Little way off topic, it's been a while since I purchased a wall hanger, but I fancy a antique Blunderbus to go up on the wall above my bookshelf. What is the current legislation with buying an item like that, if it's over a 100 years old is it still exempt from licening laws? (for now)
As @ugly says, plus the list of breech loading calibres is at Appendix 5 here:
https://assets.publishing.service.g..._on_Firearms_Licensing_Law_April_2016_v20.pdf

Only a Court can ultimately decide if a firearm (held as curiosity or ornament) is an antique. The legislation is here, Section 58 (2):
Firearms Act 1968

The amendments relate to the exemption not applying to prohibited persons, firearm in a public place and trespass with a firearm
 
The showground thing was raised on Monday evening at the HBSA legislative update. It doesn't affect any of us but the view is that it will be used to stop have a go clay pigeon shooting and estate rifle rules. So even if you aren't prohibited in law from ownership you will be prohibited from even touching anything without a license!
I doubt amending or repealing the 11 (4) exemption would affect the 11 (6) exemption or the 11A exemptions personally:
Firearms Act 1968
Firearms Act 1968

If they were to propose a change, they should obviously provide evidence of misuse .
 
Watching the videos ... They say 20,000 high powered shotguns are owned in the UK. What is a "High powered shotgun" and how does it differ from any other shotgun? Do they mean 3" chamber or have they absolutely no idea of what they are taking about. Those questions should be considered rhetorical in nature.
 
Revealed: the most deadly large animal in the UK
74 people killed by cows (not just bull’s either) over 15 years reported in 2015. Mostly farm workers, but a lot of ‘lone dog walker’
Cars, check the "wheels of death" figures. Oh, I'll do it, from .GOV

Statistics on reported road casualties in Great Britain for the year ending June 2018 shows, there were:
1,770 reported road deaths
Statistics on reported road casualties in Great Britain for 2017 show, there were:
1,793 reported road deaths
 

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