Fire Shirkers Management Bollox

Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by mattmo74, Jun 15, 2007.

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  1. An extraordinarily story I personally found difficult to believe until I saw a photograph of the sign the management had erected upon the door of the room within which the chair is located, to the effect that the chair was not to be sat upon by individuals until they had received formal instruction on it's use!

    That a sleeping bag is found within a locker is no more conclusive to the fact that it's owner is sleeping upon a floor than it would be that a man is smoking in a no-smoking area simply because he is found to be rolling a cigarette in the same place! Formal disciplinary action on that basis is at best tenuous and at worst irrational.

    The deployment of a prohibitory notice, the basis upon which disciplinary action was taken and the method under which their policy was introduced points to a dysfunctional and terminally ill managment structure.
  2. This of course has nothing to do with Health and Safety and all to do with the production of CYA paperwork for Management. The HSAWA 1974 is fine piece of legislation drafted for all the right reasons.

    However it has been well and truly hijacked by the legal profesion and the subsequent growth of the Health and Safety profession is astonishing.

    The net result of this sort of nonsense is that even more people now think H&S is all about stupid rules and even more stupid managers.
  3. Absolutely - Health and Safety is there for a reason, to keep people safe as is reasonably practical at work. The underlined bit is what people forget.
  4. The fact that they employed an "ergonomics consultant" at all is astonishing.
    If you took their overnight duties and rapid reaction call out times into account, it would not be a far leap to make that MOD guard rooms manned by soldiers were in need of the same makeover..... Can you imagine taking away the beds from our soldiers on overnight guard and giving them these chairs saying "sleep is not allowed".....
  5. And dont forget, all that comes under the mantle of..... Modernisation!

    What a load of cock!
  6. Jimbo - it won't be long before the reasonable bit is removed. If it can be done, whatever the cost, then it will have to be done.

  7. Reasonably practicle is to stay see
    The term “ergonomics” is derived from two Greek words: “ergon”, meaning work and “nomoi”, meaning natural laws. Ergonomists study human capabilities in relationship to work demands.

    In recent years, ergonomists have attempted to define postures which minimize unnecessary static work and reduce the forces acting on the body. All of us could significantly reduce our risk of injury if we could adhere to the following ergonomic principles:

    All work activities should permit the worker to adopt several different, but equally healthy and safe postures
    Where muscular force has to be exerted it should be done by the largest appropriate muscle groups available.
    Work activities should be performed with the joints at about mid-point of their range of movement. This applies particularly to the head, trunk, and upper limbs.

    Here, however, we arrive at a serious problem - and a challenge to conventional ergonomic thinking: In order to put these recommendations into practice, a person would have to be a skilled observer of his or her own joint and muscle functioning and would have to be able to change his or her posture to a healthier one at will. No one develops this sort of highly refined sensory awareness without special training. Therefore, in order to derive the benefits of ergonomic research, we must learn how to observe our bodies in a new way.* Any attempt to improve workplace conditions can have only limited success if this issue is ignored.

    They are only acting on the welfare of the firemen folks and their Health and Safety comes first.How many firemen have quit the job because of health reasons related to their posture?
  9. You've appear to have missed your vocation - get into entertainment pronto.

  10. Best thing all round would be to skip the chairs, and reinstate the firemens bunks, then everyone, the HSE, the firemen etc would be happy, have you ever tried to get some decent kip in one of those types of chairs? its near imposible, and does not begin to compare to a nice cosy bunk. :D
  11. More importantly why should they be sleeping if they are on duty. A night shift in any other job will sleep in the day and WORK at night. Rest facilities should be no more than a day shift would expect!
  12. Bollox.

    If they had to sleep during the day, how would they fit in their second job. They have to sleep at night to stay alert for mini-cabbing...
  13. Boloxs, working a rotating night day shift is a whole different ball game, you no doubt have never worked one in your life , humans were never meant to be nocturnal, our cardian cycles never adjust to it fully, fact, which is why you normally feel a tad different at 0300 than you do at 1500, therefore if you can by the nature of the job get some sleep whilst on nightshift it makes very good sense, i work a rotating 4 day shift 2 days 2 nights and the way we work it is, if possible get stuck in, get all the work boxed by say 0200 and then get some kip before we need to start again at around 0500, getting a couple of hours shut eye makes all the diference i can assure you
  14. Cardian cycles?

    Is that a dress code or a means of transport?