Final Type 45 destroyer sets off on maiden voyage

#1
Ministry of Defence said:
Duncan, the Royal Navy's sixth and final powerful new Type 45 destroyer, has put to sea for the first time for trials where a blend of Royal Navy, Ministry of Defence and BAE Systems personnel will put her through her paces.

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#2
Nice to see MOD trying to put a positive spin on a programme that's been slashed from 14, to, we need 12 to do the job, to, look Minister, 8 is the very minimum we can get by with, to 6.
Still, mustn't grumble, they tried to flog 5 & 6 to the Saudies, so we might have gotten only 4.
 

jrwlynch

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#3
Still, mustn't grumble, they tried to flog 5 & 6 to the Saudies, so we might have gotten only 4.
It was #7 and #8 they tried to sell to the Saudis - who remembered our battleship sales to Turkey a century ago and wisely said 'no', because they didn't like the odds of having the ships compulsorily purchased once it was obvious we needed more hulls.

I'd love to think we were actually working on that sort of cunning plan, but history and military knowledge aren't core skills these days...
 

Grumblegrunt

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#4
but I thought they were so good we only need the one to defend the entire island chain or secure the FI from the entire argy air force - so thats 5 spares then.

mind you in a few years they will have discovered some fatal flaw which means they wont be able to keep up with the underpowered fitted for planes carriers unless we pay for a total rebuild because someone didn't read the contract.

as I understand it via the NAO the build quality is a bit suss and the navy aren't happy
 

seaweed

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#6
More ARRSE ignorance. Adam Duncan was a 6'4" admiral (and a Scot) who won the battle of Camperdown against the Dutch in 1797, taking eleven of their ships and losing none of his own.
 
#7
Well it is the Army Rumour Service, wouldnt you and Duncs be better off in the Rum Ration?
 
#9
Several public houses, including one in Soho, London, a gay pub that was the scene of a terrorist bombing in 1999, perpetuate his name.

Hmm A ship named after a gay pub, says it all really
 
#11
**** me, they've been recruiting for the ship's crew since 2010, and out of a needed 191, they have 70. That seems about one matelot every 10 days!

Which set of defence cuts cost the RN their press gangs?
 
#12
More ARRSE ignorance. Adam Duncan was a 6'4" admiral (and a Scot) who won the battle of Camperdown against the Dutch in 1797, taking eleven of their ships and losing none of his own.
Now he'd be hard pressed to defeat the Gosport Ferry Company.
 
#19
It was #7 and #8 they tried to sell to the Saudis - who remembered our battleship sales to Turkey a century ago and wisely said 'no', because they didn't like the odds of having the ships compulsorily purchased once it was obvious we needed more hulls.

I'd love to think we were actually working on that sort of cunning plan, but history and military knowledge aren't core skills these days...
Think the Saud's prolly declined our offer due to their experience with the Sandown class - I have a clear memory of the crew pished out of their trees during a ceilidh at a Balmacara bash in the 90's. Think the Al Jawf lost eight guys to asylum on the cruise back. The degree of piss headery was probably most unwelcome at their home port.
 
#20
Can we have bit more on the build quality please. I think we all noticed the rust on the front of Daring after she was handed over to the navy.
 

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