Final Polls Point To Hung Parliament

#1
Britain is heading for a hung parliament according to the final opinion polls before the General Election.

The surveys give the Tories a lead of between eight and nine points but none hand outright victory to David Cameron.
The Populus survery for the Times puts the Tories up one point on 37% with Labour on 28% (down one) and the Lib Dems also down a point on 27%.



My question is why won't DC win at 37% having a 9 point lead? Why do we have such shite voting systems :?

Why do we vote for local MP's in a party of choice, when surely we should be ticking a box to elect a party leader like in America? :? :x
 
#2
dangerousdave said:
My question is why won't DC win at 37% having a 9 point lead? Why do we have such shite voting systems :?
When you think about it 63% of people don't want him in so its not such an unjust system.
 
#3
Hopefully it will be like John Major in 1992, and the undecideds will all see sense in the booth tomorrow and vote Tory. It has happened before.
 
#4
Tories will win tomorrow, most probably with a slim majority or with a bit of help from their friends in Northern ireland. Take a look at the piccys of Athens on the web tonight. We have a deficit as big as theirs. A labour win would be curtains. There are enough sensible people out there to prevent doomsday from happening.

If I am wrong and Harriet Hairman and the LibDems form a govt on monday, then we can be sure of one thing, it will be entertaining, right up to the point when the men in suits from the IMF come to our rescue once more.

Here's hoping that that socialist tw*t Balls goes down with the sinking ship..
 
#5
stacker1 said:
dangerousdave said:
My question is why won't DC win at 37% having a 9 point lead? Why do we have such shite voting systems :?
When you think about it 63% of people don't want him in so its not such an unjust system.
Try swapping the Labour and conservative %s around and see the difference. It is very unfair.

EDIT to add: Use this.
 
#7
Why do we vote for local MP's in a party of choice, when surely we should be ticking a box to elect a party leader like in America
I don't think we do mate. We have (historical) voted for the party, local reps are and have been irelavant. Then we had the ' Unions' power, to alter, what was a good system. It needs changing
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#8
Work this one out then:

If the Tory's win 321 seat
Labour win 93 seats
Lib Dems win 209 seat
and the rest get 27 seats

Even though that result would give the Tory's 112 seats more than the next biggest party, that still ends with a Hung parliament... Crackers..!

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#9
It should definitly be hung, then drawn, then quartered.

failing that; If they can't work together to sort out the mess then they are in the wrong job, the rest of us have to deal with whoever we are asked to work with, and most of us get along just fine and get the job done. Politicians get a grip.
 
#10
Yet you would all still vote for the Tories who have absolutley no plans what-so-ever to change the system.

Sure everythings unfair when it disadvangages you.

Give me a hung parliament, Lib/Lab or a Lab majority. Its in my best interests.
 
#11
How our Brit cousins could consider voting for ANYone on the Left anymore -- unless of course they're feeding at the public trough -- is beyond me. But then, I said that about Obamarx too.

 
#13
nigegilb said:
Tories will win tomorrow, most probably with a slim majority or with a bit of help from their friends in Northern ireland. Take a look at the piccys of Athens on the web tonight. We have a deficit as big as theirs. A labour win would be curtains. There are enough sensible people out there to prevent doomsday from happening.

If I am wrong and Harriet Hairman and the LibDems form a govt on monday, then we can be sure of one thing, it will be entertaining, right up to the point when the men in suits from the IMF come to our rescue once more.

Here's hoping that that socialist tw*t Balls goes down with the sinking ship..
Might have a defecit as big as their's but we have a vastly larger economy, so it's not quite the same.
 
#15
dangerousdave said:
My question is why won't DC win at 37% having a 9 point lead? Why do we have such shite voting systems :?
For the same reason as Labour got 3% more votes than the Tories last time and ended up with 80% more seats. Constituencies are rigged to give Labour a 10% advantage in a general election.

In Tony's landslide of 1997, Labour got 12% more votes than the Tories. Dave needs a 10% lead just to break even with Labour.

Of course, that would mean a hung Parliament which means Gordon gets to stay in No 10, even if he came third in terms of votes polled. He will remain PM until either he can form a coalition or until he chooses to resign, which is about as likely as Jordan taking a vow of celibacy.


Ruckerwocman said:
How our Brit cousins could consider voting for ANYone on the Left anymore -- unless of course they're feeding at the public trough -- is beyond me.
That's the problem. Over 50% of adults in the UK derive their income from the state. They either work for the government (>20%) or they are living off welfare (>30%). The expression "turkeys don't vote for Christmas' springs to mind.
 
#16
Ancient_Mariner said:
Ruckerwocman said:
How our Brit cousins could consider voting for ANYone on the Left anymore -- unless of course they're feeding at the public trough -- is beyond me.
That's the problem. Over 50% of adults in the UK derive their income from the state. They either work for the government (>20%) or they are living off welfare (>30%). The expression "turkeys don't vote for Christmas' springs to mind.
Don't forget too that Brits are far more left wing than USA citizens. Not many people in the UK don't think that the NHS and welfare benefits are a good idea. I don't like the waste in them, but I prefer to live in a country that has those systems than one that doesn't.
 
#17
Might have a defecit as big as their's but we have a vastly larger economy, so it's not quite the same.
Also our debt is half of what the Greeks have. Our bond maturity is roughly 5x Greece's, plus our economy is growing, with low inflation and independent control on interest rates.

My question is why won't DC win at 37% having a 9 point lead? Why do we have such shite voting systems
You've really pointed out the both negative and positive in your full post of a FPTP system. Alternative is proportional representation which will probably be mainly coalition governments like in Germany/Italy etc. Decent solution could be a fully elected upperhouse/lowerhouse with proportional representation and FPTP system respectively. However that would require tons of reform.

He will remain PM until either he can form a coalition or until he chooses to resign, which is about as likely as Jordan taking a vow of celibacy.
Or he gets given a vote of no confidence.
 
#18
Well in about 2 ½ hours time electioneering and poll publications will cease and then tomorrow it is down to the electorate .

Whatever the outcome ….. unless it is a clear majority for Labour , which seems unlikely , Brown’s future is very uncertain . He has led an election strategy which has blown hot and cold in trying to get into bed with the Liberal Party . The nett result has been to alienate Clegg to the point that he has said he will not work with Brown .

When all the results are known on Friday it will certainly be an interesting day and may prove a particularly bad one for Brown .
 
#19
colton said:
Yet you would all still vote for the Tories who have absolutley no plans what-so-ever to change the system.

Sure everythings unfair when it disadvangages you.

Give me a hung parliament, Lib/Lab or a Lab majority. Its in my best interests.
Ah, you're on the dole then?

We shall see what happens. Quite possibly we might see another general election in the not-too-distant future.
 
#20
Mariner - I find your figuires hard to believe.

More than 20 per cent of the population work for the government?
I bet they don't, because you can only be talking about the working age population for a start,
which anyone can see is not the same thing as 'population'.

And more than 30 per cent 'are living off benefits'?

'Are in reciept of some kind of benefit' might be the case, but 'living off', no chance.

Yet more spun bollox.
 

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