Film Clips and teaching points etc.

#1
What clips of films, TV shows etc have you seen used to aide in instruction?

For example, I have seen:

The Monty Python “how not to be seen “sketch used as part on introducing recruits to the skills of camouflage etc.

The beginning of Saving Private Ryan, where some surrendering Germans are shot as an introduction to the law of armed conflict.

Black adder goes fourth, the 20 minuter’s, an example of how not to instruct.

There must be plenty of clips out there that people used or have experienced. Legal issues aside, what clips would you recommend for instruction; what teaching points, and why?

Band of Brothers Episode 2 (the day of days) storming the German gun battery.



Jennie
 

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#2
As an Intro to recognition training, I used to show short clips from Zulu and Henry V to show how easy it used to be.

Henry V by the way - at least the the Agincourt bit - is an excellent bit of film anyway, and really gets the old blood going :) Another great example of the Irish Army helping us out (at least for making this wonderful propoganda film!).

Edit -

For map reading, the bit in Blackadder where they produce a sketch map with elephants and factories is good, and for scale, also Father Ted where they are in a caravan, and Ted is explaining to Dougal the meaning of scale and distance - "These are small, those are far away"...
 
#3
Once went to School of Sigs in Blandford on visit from SEE in Arborfield and the intro to one of the sessions was a clip from Whoops Apocalypse where Rik Mayal leads an SAS unit on a very poor raid. P*ssed ourselves laughing for quite a while and was great ice breaker.
 
#4
Band of Brothers the bit where they take Carentan, as an intro to 'ex. Pegasus Storm' FIBUA training exercise, by the MOST airborne pissed sergeant ever.
 
#5
I've also seen Clint Eastwood, "Do you feel lucky, PUNK? Well, do ya?" to expain Rules of Engagement and Law of Armed Conflict.
 
#6
We Were Soldiers - various bits from chpters 12 to 14 for Manouevre Warfare.

Ronin chapter 6 the bit where the arms swap goes wrong for the intro to the 7Qs.
 
#7
I used to have a clip of Mr Bean using jump leads and a lamppost to zap a heart attack victim, for first aid. Lost it though.

Mr Bean rides again...I think
 
#8
thank you all so far for your suggestions.

If there are sufficient suggestions, I will complile a list if tht would prove useful.

Jennie
 
#9
The sniper scene in Full Metal Jacket where the squad lets loose with rifles, M60 and (did I dream it?) a LAW when they came under fire. Good for how not to do target indication, ammunition discipline etc.

This did backfire once, though. I put the clip on and watched the Marines let rip and when it was over asked my class what was wrong in the video. Expecting sensible stuff about not wasting rounds etc got the eventual response:

"...er they're Septics, Sir".
 
#10
Whats wrong with that picture is they had a column of tanks there, why waste valuable link and LAWs, when a few bursts from the coax and a HESH round into the building would really have ruined the occupants day.
 
#11
'Army medicine in vietnam' is now available from BDFL on DVD. Strange that as not long ago it was banned from being used in a training establishment as 'we can't show that to the recruits, it could upset them'
 
#12
Well, for one, shooting back at the opposition makes you feel a whole lot better.

I fired my rifle from my tank, even though my gunner was hosing down with the far more effective coax. As for ammo expenditure, our point of view is the ammo is there to be used, so use it!

The 'How not to be seen' sketch is far and away the first clip that comes to mind.

For some reason 'Men of Honour' (Courtroom scene) is used in the US Army for values training.

NTM
 
#13
California_Tanker said:
Well, for one, shooting back at the opposition makes you feel a whole lot better.

I fired my rifle from my tank, even though my gunner was hosing down with the far more effective coax. As for ammo expenditure, our point of view is the ammo is there to be used, so use it!

The 'How not to be seen' sketch is far and away the first clip that comes to mind.

For some reason 'Men of Honour' (Courtroom scene) is used in the US Army for values training.

NTM

But unfortunately the British tax payers prefer to spend money on education, health, unemployment beneficts rather than ammo.

Another factor is the more rounds you fire, the more youhave to carry :) Again we dont have the luxury of fleets of choppers to delevier supplies to hard pressed grunts! :D


But yes the "how not to be seen sketch" is so baltent and funny it is excellent.

Jennie
 
#15
Now then, I'm sure that fellow arrsers are in possession of a large number of suitably entertaining video clips. I would like to suggest that someone, somewhere creates a repository of said clips, so that everyone has the opportunity to improve those dull powerpoint lectures. I may even volunteer to be that someone.

It could simply be that people send in a CD with clips which one person collates and then sends out a CD with all clips on request. Obviously copyright issues may come to the fore, but if they don't know who we are...
 
#16
Sounds great. Is there anywhere I can get the above clips online? I have tried all sorts of software to extract clips from "BoB" and "Saving PR" but to no avail.

Anyone got any suggestions on how I can achieve this?
 
#17
devilish said:
Sounds great. Is there anywhere I can get the above clips online? I have tried all sorts of software to extract clips from "BoB" and "Saving PR" but to no avail.

Anyone got any suggestions on how I can achieve this?
Obviously, I cannot condone the use of copyright material without the owner's consent :wink: However, if you had (for example) a home video which you had put onto a DVD, but then wanted to extract some of it into a separate clip, a free piece of software currently available is called DVD Shrink, available by clicking here . It will compress the DVD (or part of it) and allow you to copy it on to your Hard Drive. Then, using either Windows Movie Maker, or any other MPEG editor, you simply select the portion or clip you require, then edit it until you have what you want :D

If anyone would like more information about how to do this, feel free to send a PM

Ghost
 
#18
theoriginalphantom said:
'Army medicine in vietnam' is now available from BDFL on DVD. Strange that as not long ago it was banned from being used in a training establishment as 'we can't show that to the recruits, it could upset them'
Any idea of the film number?
 
#19
Further to the above, it appears that Windows Movie Maker 2 is only supported using Win XP service pack 2. Movie maker 2 can be downloaded from here , if not already installed automatically.

Ghost
 
#20
I have already started such a list, and Polar69 has a copy.

I am happy to copy it here at soem point but been rather busy trying to save my civiilain employment at the moment.

But if any one wants a copy of the list that I have already compiled, please send me a PM.

Additioanlly any suggestions for film clips, together with the the relevant teaching point, I would be most appreciative.

The sort of information would be

Film name Chapter(s) Training relevance Approx Duration

I will then see if I can add it.

I have tried DVDshrink but with limited success at the moment, I can get it to copy, but then have problems with sound and too many files, but I will have another go when I regain PC usage at home . It is a pity becasue youcan start and stop the ripping either for a chapter or a small segment and is easy to use. The problems I am encoutnering is converting the output into power point etc. i hav enot yet tried using MS movie maker to tweak the resulting clip.

As I stated earlier in the thread, the method I use succesfuly as I have a TV capture Card is to play the DVD in a DVD player and capture onto the PC using MS Video maker or waht ever and save it that way.

Ghost_rider, pm me if youcan help please, with DVDshrink.

If youhave a clip youwant to send to me, plese pm me as well :)


Hope this hlps.

Jennie
 
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