File on 4 Yesterday - Kit

#1
I haven't seen mention of this on the site - File on 4 yesterday:

"With a Parliamentary report expected to add to criticism of Whitehall's defence purchasing systems, Gerry Northam asks why it seems so hard to buy the right equipment for our forces."

On iPlayer here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00n11w9/File_on_4_06_10_2009/
 
#2
I posted an oblique reference yesterday during the programme. It contains 'stuff' we should not as a nation, or tax-payers, be proud of or happy with.

Thanks for a more prominent and appropriate posting.
 
#3
Listen to the bit when James Arbuthnot says there is a trade off between money and lives. (Of course there is).

Quentin Davies flatly denies it, saying, not for the first time, our troops get the "best kit money can buy". He lies. In fact, he doesn't come across well on any subject, be it helicopters, infantry kit, vehicles.

The report ends by telling us to watch out for a Public Accounts Committee report next week on armoured vehicles.
 
#4
Quentin Davies sounds completely out of his depth - either totally unaware of his brief or lying outrageously (and incompetently) for spin purposes.

Of course there is a trade off between cost and effectiveness of kit, even without taking into account time-to-delivery. This is so simple a matter of economics it is clearly politically unconscionable.

Of course there is a huge budget issue, largely driven by the procurement overruns, which is now having militarily significant impacts on all other areas of spending.

And the Puma retread being a good idea? I loved the Squadron Leader's "at least I'll not have to retrain to another helicopter type". Pointless, narrow empire focussed thinking. Well, he is a crab ...
 
#5
Sat in the car listening to it, the minister lied. Was tad dusty hearing about the sjt who died in a vector.


2000 tonight there is a debate on R4 hosted by Eddie Mair.

As President Obama debates whether to send even more troops to the country, and the British death toll there rises, Eddie Mair chairs a debate at Chatham House in London about how close the west is to achieving its ambitions in Afghanistan.

What is its 'mission'? To close down terrorist cells in the country, making the UK a safer place? To introduce democracy, greater freedom for women, more electricity, water?

Taking part in the debate are:

Francesc Vendrell, who was the European Union's Special Representative for Afghanistan from 2002 to 2008; before that he was the Personal Representative of the UN Secretary-General for Afghanistan.

Brigadier Buster Howes, who is the Head of Overseas Operations at the MOD.

Eric Joyce, a former major in the army and now a Labour MP. He resigned as an aide to the defence secretary, calling on Gordon Brown to make clear to the British people that the Afghanistan campaign was 'time limited'.

Lindsey German, a senior organiser of the Stop the War Coalition.

Dr John Mackinlay, a counter-insurgency expert from King's College, London.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00n3lbp


For some more http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/places/bG9jYXRpb24vYWZnaGFuaXN0YW4
 
#7
Good CO said:
I haven't seen mention of this on the site - File on 4 yesterday:

"With a Parliamentary report expected to add to criticism of Whitehall's defence purchasing systems, Gerry Northam asks why it seems so hard to buy the right equipment for our forces."

On iPlayer here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00n11w9/File_on_4_06_10_2009/
Just caught this.

Much was the wringing of hands. And lying like a b'stard.
I'd give my eye teeth to see that smarmy twat in the front of any of the "steadily improving" wastes of maintenance time that have cost so many, so much.(1)

I hadn't realised how poor the availability of Mastiff was. I'd love to see the defence of the terms of the contract from the "MoD is doing it's best" bunch.

(1) Any Tp/Plt Cpl to choose a route of a min of 8Km length. (2)
(2)Let it not be said we are not equal opportunity put up or shut up testers.
 
#8
Quentin Davies made a real Cnut of himself over the Vector issue, saying it was introduced 2 years ago as a replacement for Snatch. He obviously forgot the interview he gave a year ago when the SAS Major resigned over the use of Snatch Landrover, which led to 3 of his team being killed.

Complete denial from Davies. Lets hope the good people of Grantham and Stamford remember him when it comes to election day.
 
#9
bobthedog said:
Quentin Davies made a real Cnut of himself over the Vector issue, saying it was introduced 2 years ago as a replacement for Snatch. He obviously forgot the interview he gave a year ago when the SAS Major resigned over the use of Snatch Landrover, which led to 3 of his team being killed.

Complete denial from Davies. Lets hope the good people of Grantham and Stamford remember him when it comes to election day.
Quentin Davies...a true Lincolnshire MP...the man who put the c--t in Scunthorpe!
 

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