Fighting Passions tonight 2230 BBC2

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Documentary featuring interviews with soldiers on the act that defines them: killing.

For civilians, it is a crime. For soldiers, it is a job. Soldiers who have done it don't usually talk about it, but five former British infantrymen recall the reality of combat in compelling and candid detail. Through powerful personal testimonies, the programme traces the journeys of these men from young recruits, through training and frontline combat, to where killing places them today.

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#2
You can bet this will tell only half the story and probably badly. Almost certain to put the Army and our Chain of Command in a bad light. Interviewing only 5 soldiers (?) - I have already written it off.
 
#4
Sorry BRL didn't see your post.

Watching it now, not too bad as TV docs about the Army go.

At least there has been footage of SLR's which is a plus point. :D
 
#5
Just watched it. I think it was certainly honest, although not necessarily objective. It did however make me feel quiet uncomfortable (not due to the subject matter) as I felt like I was intruding on something that civillians shouldn't be able to access, bit like watching hidden cam porn.
 
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tackleberry626vgs said:
Just watched it. I think it was certainly honest, although not necessarily objective. It did however make me feel quiet uncomfortable (not due to the subject matter) as I felt like I was intruding on something that civillians shouldn't be able to access, bit like watching hidden cam porn.
Yeah, cos civvies think soldiers only do funny walks, shout a lot and dress up for the Queen on her birthday, and that's the way it should be.
 

Command_doh

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Book Reviewer
#9
Noticed the look in the eyes when they were talking about 'slotting', etc.

Hakeswill was really enjoying his violent memories.

Good programme I thought. Surprisingly balanced, but to say that there is no emotion in being taught to kill these days is boll0cks. How is it different to take a life today when compared to WWI or II?
 

Pararegtom

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Book Reviewer
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Robin Horsfal is a good mate of mine, and very balanced person, he does not need to big up the I am bit. thought the programme was interesting apart fron the ********* SG officer who has a serious axe to grind.
 

the_boy_syrup

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Book Reviewer
#11
Good programme
All the talking heads know what they are talking about and have been their done it and got the tee shirt

Is alot of the early training footage from the BBC Paras programme in the 80's ?
 
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Sparky2339 said:
Sorry BRL didn't see your post.

Watching it now, not too bad as TV docs about the Army go.

At least there has been footage of SLR's which is a plus point. :D
Putties did it for me.

All in all, very good.

Any idea what it's about next week?
 
#14
Pararegtom said:
thought the programme was interesting apart fron the ********* SG officer who has a serious axe to grind.
The officer in question was deemed to have done his job quite well!

The axe he grinds ( presumably you refer to his well publicised grievance about poor treatment received by wounded soldiers?) is a fair point, surely?

As for his apparent indifference to killing humans, I think it worth remembering he suffered serious brain trauma; it's not unusual for people so injured to display disinhibition & lack of empathy, and what he now says he felt at the time may not, in fact, be a true recollection of what he actually experienced/ thought during the events described.

IMO, this proramme would've benefited from some comment by neurophysiologists & psychiatrists to contextualise these recollections & explain that the different attitudes/ responses displayed are all well within the range of normal human behaviour.
 

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