Fifty soldiers a month lost to wounds in Afghanistan

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  1. Fifty soldiers a month lost to wounds in Afghanistan

    By Chris Hughes 7/12/2009

    British commanders are losing nearly 50 troops every month because of battle wounds in Afghanistan.

    The statistics leaked to the Mirror cover April to October and show that for every soldier killed in Helmand Province, seven are being injured by the enemy. The worst month was July during the bloody Panther's Claw operation with 94 troops being wounded and treated at Camp Bastion's field hospital.
  2. This is information the M.O.D did not want the public to see (hence the leak.)
    The fact that M.O.D would not publish this data to the public disturbes me and is proof that they do indeed have things to hide. :evil:
  3. kinda puts the "Extra 500" troops into perspective

    Every man thrown back to the UK on a medevac should have every possible NHS service laid at their feet

    If the Government are not willing to do this they should not engage in this conflict
  4. I agree fully but that is only happening whilst they remain in service and no budget or training seems to be in place to deal with troops when they leave the service and are back in the NHS system. There are Physiotherapists and Occupational Theosophists who have never seen or have experience of or had special training in the type and severity of injuries and wounds now turning up at local level in the NHS.

    Hitback is trying to get a campaign moving 'One Common Cause' which will make a start in dealing with this problem. However he needs support from serving and ex service troops to push forward this campaign If in particular serving personnel will not make the effort to help their wounded ex service colleagues then the politicians wont.
  5. How about the M.O.D failing to educate recruits at any stage about "Battlefield trauma" and it's long term effect, on the grounds that it would frighten most potential recruits away?
    Is this not cheating potential recruits of H.M. Forces??
  6. I remember the first time I went for an interview with my ACA his first comment was "3 soldiers from my regiment were sitting where you are, two of whom had just lost limbs in Afghanistan".

    It ws always clear to me that there was a high probability of being wounded.
  7. I would be interested to know how many of the 50 a month actually return back to frontline action. Also the number of those that would of died from wounds received but are actually surviving due to advances in the field trauma care.

    If it wasn't for the immediate care the injured get at Bastion I think the death toll could be a lot higher.

    Edited for mong spelling
  8. S/Sgt Schmid's Wife brought this up last night on " Newsnight" talking to Kirtsty Walk, a quit moving interview
  9. unless you joined between gulf 1 and september 11 you will know whats been happening, you dont join the army thinking no one will get hurt!
    and if you did think like that basic would sort you out with in a week or 2!
    and as for the long term effects every one knows how hard it would be to loose a limb or 3, what most people dont want to think about is if its them that looses them!

    another labour supporter dumbing eveything down i fear!
  10. Full and frank disclosure? You're having a laugh incher?
  11. I don't actually agree with that for several reasons.

    Firstly,I don't belive a British soldier should have to be in an NHS hospital. The military had a network of hospitals UK wide that have all been closed down and sold off to property developers.

    Wounds aquired in conflict are very different to those a civilian suffers. There is normally a lot of trauma, both physically and mentally, and I do not believe the NHS have the specialist staff needed to understand this.

    I also do not think the NHS have the right environment for wounded soldiers. Once wounded, they are removed from there mates, that close knit family of the regiment, and placed in a strange hospital, with no military infrastucture and total unfamiliarity.

    I think the governments (now and in the past) have failed military personnel by removing hospitals and care and placing the responsibility with an already over stretched NHS.
  12. Biped

    Biped LE Book Reviewer

    So, based on those statistics, is it likely that we've had 700 injured in Afghan this year?

    If so, it quite clearly shows up the manning issue, and makes a mockery of Brown's 500 extras.
  13. Here's an interesting slant, battlefield suspended animation

    All I can say is, that if it helps save lives, we want it as soon as it's available.

    It has all the hallmarks of a military orientated sytem that will have a great spin off into civvy street.
  14. At AOSB they show a video about training to be an officer, which includes a still of a recently killed Lt while he was at the Main Board (in bib and suit), and then the picture of his coffin being loaded into the plane at Bastion. Quite stirring imagery.

    The 7 to 1 ratio is surely a testament to our ability to evacuate the wounded and their medical care, this is the only war with that much seperation between Killed:Wounded.

    We can only hope that this war might bring some positive side-effects on prosthetic limbs, in the same way that RAF pilots helped the improvement of skin-grafts following WWII.