FH-70 flick rammer?

#1
Hi. I'm trying to discover if/when a flick rammer was introduced on British Army FH-70 howitzers. Videos of those used by Germany, Estonia, Japan and Italy show manual ramming, yet the RoF claimed for British Army F-70s means one must have been used at some point. Many thanks. Chris.
 
#2
IIRC, We hand rammed! Cannot remember any flick rammer! although after the first round had gone the loading tray was presented to the breech face on runout. Maybe and just maybe it rammed then but I am sure we hand rammed. I loved that Gun.
 
#3
My memory tallies with Ayrforce1 but grey cells could be at fault.
FH70 was a gun you couldn't afford to mess about with... Memories of long, hot days on the Plain and of carrying rounds to alternate position as the gun put-putted along on its little engine.
 
#4
I remember standing between the trails on Otterburn one cold,wet and windy day. The cam net and clegg was up the 7x9 erected an dthe Detachment all inside it waiting for the kettle to brew. The rain was lashing down as I put the finishing touches to check bearing and the hope of a warm brew when all of a sudden a gust of wind takes the net away! As I stood there with the handset to my ear and the rain dripping down my neck from my helmet I paused to turn around and look at the wagon lines. There awaited me many smiling nay laughing faces with steam coming out the windows/penthouses from BV's! I turned to the 7x9 to see 5 faces etched in pain pleading with me, Please/please do not send us after the net! I only had to turn around and face my front for them to know get sprinting! ha ha!
 
#5
Hi. I'm trying to discover if/when a flick rammer was introduced on British Army FH-70 howitzers. Videos of those used by Germany, Estonia, Japan and Italy show manual ramming, yet the RoF claimed for British Army F-70s means one must have been used at some point. Many thanks. Chris.
It was possible to fire three rounds from the FH70 in 12 seconds. It was part of the specification in order to get the standard FFE order of 3FFE into the target before an enemy had time to get under cover. I think it was also part of the SP70 spec, but I have no idea whether the AS 90 can.

I was a GPO of an FH 70 Battery in 1981 and remember seeing it demonstrated, but I can't remember us doing it very often or even recall exactly what the drill was. It could only be performed with L15 ammunition, and rounds were a little scarce to be wasted as 3FFE. I canlt find any youtube clips of the FH70 firing real ammunition. It was a bit of a dinosaur.
 
#7
Well thanks for locating the batteries on Youtube. I had seen the first and second clips. The first is some nationality firign very slowley. The second seems to be the civilian owned FH70. The third is non UK troops firing at a decent rate - a round every 12 seconds, but hardly three in 12. Did I imagine seeing the burst fire rate?
 
#10
From vague memory, we hand rammed..............but who gives a feck, it was a heap of shit!
 
#14
Was this a standard issue weapon or was it only for the ellite.
Must have been shite, I did my Gnr (field guns) training on it as a TA solider in '98.

I cannot remember the exact specifications, and the only working parts I can recall are due the Bombardier referring to them as the "piss flaps, tit and clitoris".

Was probably the only occasion I could find the clit every time, to be fair.
 
#16
From my memory, the only "Flick Hammer" on the FH 70, was the Hammer, Pein, Ball, NSN XX-99-XX of the CES being used to start the ******* VW Beetle engine, or straighten the "steering wheels" (which could nt steer)

What a pile of Shoite!

Edited to add: That

a) As a Gunner, I should know the difference between a Rammer, and a Hammer, problems of being a Plank/Wedge)

b)I should RTFQ
 
#17
From vague memory, we hand rammed..............but who gives a feck, it was a heap of shit!
I think the FH70 was a good gun - for 1944...

A gun that allows a regiment to put 72 rounds into an area within 15 seconds is impressive - if the enemy are going to oblige by attacking en mass or with hatches open.

I remmber our UTO on pracitce camp in Otterburn pointiong to the hydraulic cables and telling me he thought it was an utter dinosaur. Too heavy to lift by Chinook and therefore left out of Op Corporate. Too vulnerable to be used in a war against the Soviets.
 
#19
Not that I can remember! Although we sometimes had fun at places like Trauen/Rheinzahlen camp coming into and out of action practice with NATO Arty Units on Excercise. I cannot believe people hated that gun! I loved it. Hard work but great satisfaction when using it. I also liked the fact that when you were driving anywhere and a poser in a car with window down or hood down stopped next to you on the nearside you could kill the engine and then start up again causing a great big plume of black exhaust fumes into their car/mush! :)
 
#20
What memories. A certain Regt only managed to roll one on route from Thorney to Otterburn. Ronnie RAF did, however, decide to cut away one of the little darlings from about 50ft over a not so soft field in Denmark. I also remember the joys of Bluebell being summonsed to the junction of the A303 and A344 (yes, 300m from Stonehenge) at early on June 21st after a crew took the wrong avoiding action when gawping at druids. As for the flick-rammer; I can only remember mandraulic loading trays which routinely fell apart at Charge 8.
 
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