FFD Location

#1
Does anybody know where you are supposed to keep your first field dressing?

i always was told it was the right hand top pocket of you combat jacket, but recently i have been b***cked and told to tape it to my bayonet frog?
Later on the same day i was told to tape it to the left front yoke strap on my webbing?

My reaction to this was GET F**KED, although i got a B***ocking from my Cpl, i still leave it in my pocket and have taped a second to my webbing to aviod conflict

this is madness as you are supposed to be able to get to it quickley, by the time you have cut through the tape to get if off the poor b***ard who you are treating will have bled to death

Has anyone else had this S**T?
 
#2
Usually covered in unit SOPs (do they still have SOPs?)
 
#3
I like the left (or right) trouser pocket, no need to tape it anywhere and it is readily available. Alternatively, if you carry 6 or 7 you could keep one in evey location you can think of and keep every one happy!
 
#5
Personally i always kept two on my frog.If you need to use them the last thing you need is to have to play hide and seek with them.Have them in a obvious accessible place and what ever you do dont use three rolls of black nasty taping them.

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#6
What a load of rubbish. this should be covered in Coy SOPs. I believe that its also covered in Army-wide regs. Most Inf Coys carry it in the top left jacket pocket, as this is the Brecon SOPs and no one can be arrsed to type them out in the Field army.
 
#7
Always seemed to be top left pocket guess withnew body armour had to be changed taped to bayonet frog seems to be fashionable.
 
#8
I was always told not to tape onto webbing as it can get torn off and lost.

personally I tend to carry a couple anyway, the latest SOP seems to be to carry it in your LH map pocket along with your tourniquet.

To be honest I would be more concerned about thses people you see walking round with their CAT neatly taped onto body armour with half a roll of black nasty. Getting your field dressing when you need it is one thing but I know from experience if you want your tourniquet you're really not in a position to be trying to unwrap it.
 
#9
Man_of_Kent said:
this is madness as you are supposed to be able to get to it quickley, by the time you have cut through the tape to get if off the poor b***ard who you are treating will have bled to death
Don't worry too much. As you use the injured person's dressing, not your own, to treat his injuries, he'll learn the hard way that the FFD needs to be accessible.

Chunky elastic bands are the way forward if fastening it to your webbing.

And you should always keep one next to your wallet as it might just provoke a guilt-trip as someone starts rifling your pockets. :)
 
#10
Carry as many as practicable- remember that if someone wears a mortar round, they will have several FFD-sized wounds
 
#11
To all above - the FFD is carried to be used on you - so you must make it as easy as possible for it to be located and used hence SOP.
 
#13
Top left not done now, due to CBA over desert shirt.

We had one in the left thigh pocket - BG SOP. And then a pouch full of the f*ckers for the other holes.
 
#14
From experience, current practice is LH map pocket along with tourniquet. Persona;;y I would recommend that you keep your morphine there as well (from very recent experience). Keep tightly together using an elastic band, don't use fecking black and nasty or any other tape to hold it together, try a practical experiment, blindfolded and with your hands covered in KY Jelly get the tape off as quickly as you can! It has proven the point to my guys.
 
#15
FFDs at one time were carried in left hand jacket pocket and then taped to the yoke of your webbing until we had PRR then the bayonet frog and on ops as Brigade SOP LH Trouser Map pocket with the Morphine Coffin taped to it and secured to the button with cord
 
#16
IMO there should be a dedicated pocket on your ECBA. On Telic, the heirarchy kept changing the location - taped to the handle below your front kevlar plate, in your map pocket, etc etc. The same with morphine, etc.

Result - no one quite knows what goes where, and no one has it in the same place as the guy next to him/her. Introduce a proper pocket AND ENFORCE ITS' USE! :)
 
#17
Trouble with taping it to webbing is that apart from the obvious problem of getting to it quickly when you need to (and let's face it, if you need to get to it you are going to want it pretty damned quick), if you have your webbing removed for any reason e.g. you are too fat for for your mates to carry you during an extraction, your FFD is gone too. Some DS have their own little pet SOPs that they will insist you follow.
 
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#18
You get a pouch for Osprey which has just enough room for 2 Syrettes of morphine in their coffins, a FFD and Torniquet.

As for other times, i was always told to keep mine in the top left pocket of my smock
 
#19
An interesting one this, does anybody remember the "old" Combats (DPM and OG) which had an odd buttoned-pocket on the left-front to the side of the fly? This apparently, was for your FFD though absolutely no-one ever carried it there as it was clearly a bollock-cruncher should you hit the ground running. It was in the same place on WW2 battledress I believe. I often wondered what f**k*ng plank had decided to put it there of all places but after a bit of thought I saw where he was coming from. The idea appeared to be that short of having both arms out of action you would be able to get at it fairly easily. It's in arms length of both arms so it's accessible without stretching or bending, something quite useful depending on your injuries or the depth of the shell-hole you're grovelling in! I wonder how easy it would be to get at your FFD if its in the bottom of your left (say) map pocket, your left arm or hand is badly is badly damaged and you're on your back bleeding heavily and in a shallow depression with rounds cracking over your head? Ditto with it taped to your frog on the "wrong" side of your body?

Incidentally, do they still teach the "Immediate Self-help Drills" for what to do if you're a casualty, I learnt them at Brecon in the stone-age and never saw or heard anything of them again for the remainder of my service!
 
#20
Jaeger said:
An interesting one this, does anybody remember the "old" Combats (DPM and OG) which had an odd buttoned-pocket on the left-front to the side of the fly? This apparently, was for your FFD though absolutely no-one ever carried it there as it was clearly a bollock-cruncher should you hit the ground running. It was in the same place on WW2 battledress I believe. I often wondered what f**k*ng plank had decided to put it there of all places but after a bit of thought I saw where he was coming from. The idea appeared to be that short of having both arms out of action you would be able to get at it fairly easily. It's in arms length of both arms so it's accessible without stretching or bending, something quite useful depending on your injuries or the depth of the shell-hole you're grovelling in! I wonder how easy it would be to get at your FFD if its in the bottom of your left (say) map pocket, your left arm or hand is badly is badly damaged and you're on your back bleeding heavily and in a shallow depression with rounds cracking over your head? Ditto with it taped to your frog on the "wrong" side of your body?
Evidently you've never tried to put the FFD in this pocket. The 70's FFD was smaller than the current issue as it wasn't in the rubberised fabric cover, but it was still a struggle to get it into the pocket. This was because the top of the pocket was narrower than the FFD, though the rest of the pocket was the same size as the FFD.

Getting it out was even more of a struggle as you were unable to get more than one finger into the pocket. Short of removing the trousers and squeezing the FFD out like toothpaste from a tube, the only way to remove the FFD was to cut the pocket off.

One slip of a sharp knife and you sever the artery in the groin, thus no further need for the FFD and no need for stretcher bearers. Quite a clever plan really. :twisted:
 
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