I know this is a very delicate subject but I would like to get a general feel of what other folk think of this extreme group. I will lay my cards on the table so you honest folk can judge for yourself, I am a happily married chap with 1 child and 1 on the way, I have the misfortune of having an ex wife, some may say attributable to the job. Unfortunately my ex wife left me and set up home with another chap, I have no argument here, however when she moved she decided she would eradicate all memories of the biological father on route. I have 2 beautiful children with my ex wife and I am not allowed to see them, I have no criminal record, no history of violence just your average Joe. My Ex has refused access to my children and I have fought this through the courts for over 5 years. So what have I achieved? well in 5 years I have seen one of my children for 2 hours once a fortnight 3 times and supervised by a court representative which I have to pay for. Are Father's for Justice taking the law a stage to far? In my eyes they are not taking it far enough! I am seriously contemplating pinning a banner to my 2's and climbing something. Anyone else feel as strongly as me or am I a minority in the forces? Will you be around your children this christmas? What is ironic is the car stickers I have seen about a dog is for life and not just for xmas, Wow! wouldn't that be good if it applied to children! can someone tell Tony Bliar that.