Famous battalions face axe

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  1. How many more times?

    SCOTLAND'S best loved regimental names face the AXE in an army shake-up as troop numbers are cut is this what comes from Independence or is it just good timing?

    Famous battalions face axe - The Sun mobile
     
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  2. Bouillabaisse

    Bouillabaisse LE Book Reviewer

    It's alright. when you're independent you can call them what you like. You can even have your own section in the "International" thread on arrse.
     
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  3. If there is one thing worse than The Sun, it is The Scottish Sun.

    Another thing for Wee Jock McSalmond to rescue when he becomes Head of the Clans. Wait for the SNP announcement in a few days saying they will save the famous Regiments.

    Murdoch pitches the easy ball, the SNP smash it into the soft headed crowd!
     
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  4. It's all McSpeculation.
     
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  5. If they get rid of the Jock Battalions, then all the members of the CDT team will be made redundant.
     
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  6. and the resident population of Fiji will skyrocket...
     
  7. Speculation gaining credibility:

    Lieutenant General Nick Carter, who is overseeing the reorganisation, last week told General Sir Peter Wall, the head of the Army and his fellow generals, that some of the most celebrated names would have to go. A Ministry of Defence spokesman confirmed a meeting to discuss “Army 2020”, the reorganisation plan, had taken place on Thursday.

    He said: “A review of the future structure of the Army is ongoing. The regiments will learn their fate as early as this week."

    A reorganisation of the Army in 2004, which saw 19 regiments amalgamated or disbanded, led to a public outcry.

    The Black Watch, the Green Howards, the Highlanders in Scotland and Duke of Wellington’s Regiment in northern England are all at risk.

    The fall in recruitment could also affect The Scots Guards and the Coldstream Guards, the Army’s oldest regiment

    A senior Army Officer source said: “Some of them are short of 100 men. “The Coldstream Guards would probably be a cap badge too far but the undermanned units are the ones most at risk.”

    The Future Force 2020 review is being prepared by Lieutenant General Nick Carter and will be studied by the head of the Army, General Sir Peter Wall.

    It is due to be unveiled in April to show how numbers can be cut from 100,000 to 82,000.

    The review is understood to be focusing on infantry regiments with more than three battalions, leaving the Paras, The Rifles and the Mercians at risk. The Paras have one unit – 1 Para – that supports special forces. Another – 3 Para – spearheads a rapid reaction task force. The main option being studied is to keep 1 and 3 Para and axe 2 Para or trim it down as an infantry unit. As a unit, 2 Para has not jumped from an RAF aircraft for more than five years, leaving it without a defined role.

    Exercises and training jumps have been cancelled because the RAF’s Hercules C-130 fleet is in Afghanistan. The Ministry of Defence has bought C-17 transport planes but they do not have suitable jumping gear
     
  8. We don't have any famous battalions anymore. The 'famous names' of the British Army (except the Paras) went years ago.

    The Black Watch, Highlanders, DWR and Green Howards no longer exist.
     
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  9. Well, the Daily Diana is big on speculation.;P
     
  10. Bouillabaisse

    Bouillabaisse LE Book Reviewer

    Bite the bullet, throw a six and start again. Do away with all the old names and traditions and go back to numbers. Ther are regiments out there that are the "decendent" of so many amalgamations that it ceases to have meaning anymore.
     
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  11. Except Royal
     
  12. The_Duke

    The_Duke LE Moderator

    Funnily enough, 2 Para does have a role - it is on a training cycle to take over ABTF from 3 Para, who will then have a short period to rest, retrain, and then take over from 2 Para, who will then have a short period ....etc.

    Let's go wild and ignore the badges for a while. All Inf Bns to be scored according to recruiting, retention (ie return on training investment) and discipline (including CDT failures). If we wanted to be really keen, you could add in contribution to Tier 1 SF units as a second order measure of return in investment. This makes the assumption that all Bns are equal in terms of operational performance, and that all could be trained to fill all roles if required - no life savers for Paras, Guards or Jocks.

    Start the cull from the bottom of the pecking order and stop when you have got rid of the required number. No ifs, buts, excuses or begging from Old Comrades Associations allowed.
     
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  13. Brotherton Lad

    Brotherton Lad LE Reviewer

    They've kept the titles (and the Mess silver), eg 2 YORKS (Green Howards).
     
  14. Just put all the manpower into a bag and give us the following! 1st Bn The Infantry,2nd Bn The Infantry etc etc! 1st Regt Artillery etc. 1st Armoured Regt,1st Engineer Regt, ETC ETC!!! :)
     
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  15. So none of the Foot Guards would be classed as "famous" regiments then?