Families Officer!!!

Our Families Officer is a very sarcastic person.....
He's very nice and polite when it comes to dealing with families personal problems, but as soon as their back is turned - he's a Bliming nightmare.  He swears like a trooper, he shouts rude disgusting words at his phone everytime it rings.  He has actually, got 2 very different sides to him - one crude and the other polite....
This would put me off for life if i had any family problems and needed to visit his office as i dont think i could be serious with him without laughing - as i know for myself what he's really like.

Are all Families Officers like this?


Lets not forget this is a man who up until a month or two before was probably the RSM of his Regt.  Perhaps a better question might be - are families officers (Unit Welfare Officers - lets not forget the singlies) selected because of their personal qualities, experience, etc or are they selected because they happen to be the most recently commissioned WO?  I know what I think.
Thats not saying that UWOs don't do a good job, the majority are suprisingly good considering the way they get the job.  As you say though not all are the sort of person that you would prefer to discuss your personal problems with - particularly if you are female.
What a waste of about £250,000 pa, yes the UWO should be stopped and the wasted manpower put back into REAL jobs.  I know the cynics out there will say that those employed in the UWO are the dross of the unit and in there they are hidden away.  I agree as I have had to deal with them professionally in my line of work. They are pathetic lecherous old women who like to gossip with the sad wives who they think they might get a cheap jump with, dream on fat boys......  Oh and the £250,000 pa is what it costs to run the average UWO.
Gobby Jock, what are u trying to say?  ...that UFO's/UWO's are nae use.  Fair do's though, i have been exposed to the crap which comes across his desk and it is that...crap.  mainly childish pads who can't turn their music down at 3 in the morning and dealing with the skipper wives who like a bit of singly when the head of the household is away (again).

keep up the good work noising up the billies
Gobby Jock Im not too sure what has happened to you maybe you were set about as a young man at at UWO's convention or something but I can assure not all UWO's are as you say in fact ours is a crackin blerk who does a dammed fine job ?
I'm intrigued....


I suppose we could get rid of the unit Padre, the RMO and the medical centre and while we're at it we could demolish the gym and let the PTIs join civvy street and set themselves up as personal trainers.  ;D ;D ;D
Careful Arthur,
               It looks like that has almost happened in my unit, RMO is a civvie still waiting for new replacement for the old one using dial-a-doc, half the medics are civvies and the med centre doesn’t like dealing with soldiers (not much profit). The gym doesn’t open in the evenings (short of qualified PTIs) so if you work late as most people do you have to join a civvie gym anyway. At least the Padre is still green that’s when they don’t keep sending him away for months at a time to cover Op tours. Still at least the RCMO is a soldier.


Yeah, but the RCMO is frequently an ex RSM whose idea of management is to tellthe lads to stop arrseing around and sort themselves out and whose welfare approach is "give 'er a slap"
Usually an acomplished Padshagger if he's in the teeth arms........Probably
Families Officers should be professional social workers, not recently appointed WOs.  You can not expect a recently promoted WO to be able to deal with tact and diplomacy when faced with social/marital problems.  
Can we just sort out some of the other busy bodies in the system - like certain civilian MRS staff.  The amount of times they hide behind "medical in confidence" is unbeliveable, and unjustified.  I do want to know which soldiers in my unit are on Prozac (as well as officers)!
Well spanner you are not allowed to unless the individual tells you. It`s against the law!
I am only asking as it does concern me that someone who is on anti-depressants could be a real liability.  If they could extend the "medical in confidence" to at least OCs, then I think most of us would probably let it lie.  After all, the whole of the wive's club normally knows anyway......


I had an RSM in Germany who got caught shagging the Naafi bird over the beercrates in the mess - literally-he got posted and rocked up in soldier magazine a few months latershaking some VIP by the hand and the caption read "Capt ******** families' officer of 3 ****".  He would be well placed to advise on domestic troubles!!!
By God, there is some bollocks on here.  UFOs of UWO or whatever they are presently called come in all shapes and sizes.  There are good, bad and indifferent.  I agree however that the selection of them is a problem; they are invariably given the job as their first LE commissioned appointment.  Remember that nasty old RSM, well he was just role playing!  Certain appointments demand stereotypical performances - RSM being a prime example.  Most LEs take the job of Families Officer seriously and are able to put their 22 years experience to good use.  I know because I was one, loved it and felt that I gave everyone a fair deal.

It is a thankless job in the main, and you are only as popular as the last time you said "yes" because it was possible for you to do so.  You can bend over backwards to help someone and be no more thought of.  The first time you have to reject a plea for time off etc you are kicked in the teeth.  

If you never need a Families Officer, good on you.  Don't knock them if you don't either, because one day you might.  

By the way I never got round to shagging anyone's wife, that kind of thing is frowned upon in an Infantry Battalion.
Here here Scribbler you've hit the nail on the head there.

I remember one scary arsed RSM in N Ireland who was so baaaaad that everyone used to take diversions within RHQ so that they would not need to pass his office.  There was a rumour circulating about one poor female private who had to see him to get her clearance chit signed as she was getting out on pregnancy. He asked her if she knew who the fahter was!!! When she replied that it was with her husband, he replied "Well that was stupid, what if he gets killed on the streets?  Who will look after you and the child?"!!!!!!!

Cue tears and hysterics.  May be true may be not.  He was scary though.  On commissioning, guess what he became?  That's right.... Families Officer.

I did bump into him years later as a QM and he was a top bloke.  He did state that when you are in the job (RSM) you have a role to play.  


In my eyes Families Officers are failing on the whole. They pretend to be helping you when the CO's agenda is always ringing away in the back of his head. Along with his longing for service beyond 6 years.

I heard of a unit in North Yorksire where the FO went out of his way to be a to be the CO's Police Man. Standing at bush shelters, monitoring school children to see how he could make hits on individuals at work that he did not get on with.

"Sir, Sir I have this to report!" Did not even have the gumption, no balls!, to talk to the parent's of the children directly. Running straight to the boss with a," didn't I do well!", and why dont you give me a promotion :x .

Families Officers should deal direct with the troops. That is what they are there for after all.If there are problems to be sorted they should deal with them direct at the source and have the where with all to have a bit of "confidential awareness". Something that I think is sorely lacking at present in this mans Army! Long live the PVR form.

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