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Falklands war booty

#1
According to Wikipedia , British forces captured the following aircraft following the Argie capitulation :

Captured after the war
11 FMA IA 58 Pucará
2 Agusta A109 Army
7 Bell UH-1H Iroquois Army
1 Boeing CH-47C Chinook Army
1 Aérospatiale Puma SA330L Coast Guard
3 Aermacchi MB.339A Navy
2 Bell 212

Were any of these serviceable , or had the Argies disabled them ?

What became of the Panhard armoured cars often seen parked up at the surrender ?

I recall seeing Gurkhas driving around in captured Merc 4x4's around Aldershot and Bordon in '83 .
 
#2
At least some of the Panhards were returned to the UK - 1 is in the Tank Museum in Bovvy, and one was/is at MPA somewhere (though it is 19 years since I was last down south!)
I believe a Pucara ended up at the AAC museum - it was outside IIRC for a while as I seem to remember seeing it driving past once.
Not sure about the rest - the Mercs ended up with 'CV' plates (Captured Vehicle?) - but had to be cannabalised as Merc wouldn't provide parts for them as the Argies hadn't actually paid for them and MoD wasn't going to ruck up either!
 
#3
I know when we did the swimming pool job the reme lads were using one of the mercs as the LAD vehicle but that was in 91

Edited due to bratty fingers
 
#4
Sorry, off thread a little:

I remember the swimming pool being there in 91 - I went down on exercise for a few weeks, which was the last time I went down south, having done two previous tours (86 on South Georgia & 87 at MPA) for my sins. Was v surprised to see a swimming pool!
 
#5
At least one Pucara and one Huey were evaluated by Boscombe Down, I don't know what happened thereafter. A number of AAA pieces were used to equip an RAF Regiement reserve unit. I think that more of the aircraft might have been made airworthy had they not been heavily souvaneered beforehand.
 
#6
The Skyguard radar which controlled the AAA guns (Oerlikons?) also became war booty and was use by the R Aux AF rock sqn based on the other side of Lincoln. A shed load of spares for the Skyguard was also recovered back to UK and when we checked them after being quarantined (in case they were booby-trapped), every single item was already NATO-codified even though the kit was supposedly designed, manufactured and built in Switzerland. These spares came in handy for a lot of work being carried out by a certain "avionic development unit" based on our north of Lincoln airfield.
 
#7
At least one Pucara and one Huey were evaluated by Boscombe Down, I don't know what happened thereafter. A number of AAA pieces were used to equip an RAF Regiement reserve unit. I think that more of the aircraft might have been made airworthy had they not been heavily souvaneered beforehand.
I have a very nice chunk of Pucara framed and mounted. Cut out the Argie flag and "ARMADA" wording from one of the ones left at the Stanley airstrip, the Panhards, as I recall sat by the racetrack on the way out to Moody Brook for ages, pillaged those aswell. I was fortunate in that I was never checked for spoils of war on return to the UK. Have, amongst other items, a very nice Argie bayonet for the FN, one piece molding, attached to the business end of the FN much the same way as the SA80 one does. Much like this one Google Image Result for http://www.old-smithy.info/bayonets/fullsize/sweden/Sweden%20FN%20FAL%20trials.jpg
 
#8
I seem to recall a number of the Mercs being backloaded to the UK. I also went on a deep sea dump on the "Black Pig", rolling off a shed load of 105mm howitzers, and tons of small arms.
 
#11
The Skyguard radar which controlled the AAA guns (Oerlikons?) also became war booty and was use by the R Aux AF rock sqn based on the other side of Lincoln. A shed load of spares for the Skyguard was also recovered back to UK and when we checked them after being quarantined (in case they were booby-trapped), every single item was already NATO-codified even though the kit was supposedly designed, manufactured and built in Switzerland. These spares came in handy for a lot of work being carried out by a certain "avionic development unit" based on our north of Lincoln airfield.
A bit off topic. I remember the aux. sqn recruiting around '86 though by then they'd been on the go a couple of years. A few years later they were still in the old bomb store area outside the airfield whilst the RE TA sqn was comfortably set up in, what was by army standards, good accommodation. When they were in 4 Hangar the RE sqn shared with the Vulcan. When the RE moved from 4 Hangar to 1 Hangar and then to the other side of the runway, the AA kit and sqn were supposed to move to 4 Hangar.
 
#12
I seem to recall a number of the Mercs being backloaded to the UK. I also went on a deep sea dump on the "Black Pig", rolling off a shed load of 105mm howitzers, and tons of small arms.
Not all of the small arms and ammo got that far. There are a number of flooded holes around the FI with shed loads of 105 and 155 ammo in them. I went diving in one with 2 mates, but we elected not to go to the bottom!
 

JINGO

War Hero
Book Reviewer
#13
One of the Panhards ended up at Combermere Barracks at the old Household Cavalry Museum. Im not sure if its still there. I suspect it will be as im not sure that there is space for it at the new museum in london.
 
Z

Zarathustra

Guest
#14
In his book Seven Troop old Andy says that the SAS were using some Augusta 109s that had been taken during the Falklands...
 
#15
A captured Huey was used by the RAF Benevolent Fund for a while, I recall seeing it at an airshow in 1984 or 85. I heard it is used as an instructional airframe somewhere nowadays!
 
#16
A captured Huey was used by the RAF Benevolent Fund for a while, I recall seeing it at an airshow in 1984 or 85. I heard it is used as an instructional airframe somewhere nowadays!
It was a long time ago, but I think I recall seeing this one at an airshow during that period. I also seem to recall the commentry stating that it was one of several from the Racecourse, and that a civi firm had been asked to build one working one from three wrecks. They got to keep the remains, and built a second flyable one from them.

This was probably the same airshow which had a flying display from a Pucara, with the commentry stating that this would be the only season this would happen, due to the spares situation.

One radar unit ended up at the now closed 'Cavern' military museum, North Wales for a period. The owner described asking for some captured gear for diplay, and being given this. A few months later, someone rang from the MOD, and asked if they could come and see it. Since it was fully operational, and very expensive, they took it away and replaced it with something else - he said that he thought that it'd gone back to the Falklands for airfield defence?

Best Regards,

b-flat
 

Grumblegrunt

LE
Book Reviewer
#17
behind the argy hospital in stanley they recovered a dismantled huey which took forever to rebuild and was supposed to be an aerovac bird but dont know if it ever saw service beyond airshows and may be the one mentioned fundraising for the abf. I think every unit collected up a supply of para fns but ended up dumping them in the solent.

from what I saw on my travels the locals probably still have a lot of stuff tucked away ready for the day we leave them alone again. good job we have the french on side to protect them
 
#18
My mate in the raf at the time, said a recovered UH1H got a bit fcuked while being transported on the back of a wagon. I remember him laughing about the main rotor not being tied down at the front properly and hitting a bridge while on the back of a low loader.
Don't know if it's accurate or not, just remember him pissing himself laughing about the incompetence of it.
 

maguire

LE
Book Reviewer
#19
wasnt the civvy Huey registered as G-HUEY? I seem to recall it in a white medevac paint scheme on the airshow circuit in the mid 80s.
 
#20
The Agusta AB 109s were flown onto HMS Fearless following the ceasefire and were later taken back into service with the Stead and Simpson company at their hideaway on the Welsh borders after evaluation. The Coast Guard Super Puma and one Chinook were also retrieved and ended up being rebuilt and entering service with the Rough Arrse Feckers. The Islanders went hunting for the Argentine Marine LVTP-7 Amtraks which were used in the Invasion, but they were withdrawn by the Argentine's almost immediately. Most of the liberated FNs and other small arms I believe were thrown over the side of a Ferry before the Customs came aboard back in UK. Most of the captured documents and some other items were boxed up and sent back to the Int Centre at Ashford. The Lineas Aereas Del Estade (LADE) Chevrolet Pick Up and Willis Jeep both died in service with the LFFI Int & Sy Section. And I believe a liberated 106mm Recoiless Gun ended up in the oggin behind the Post Office in Stanley. One or two of the Merc G Wagons (remember using 7.62mm rounds to open the Ignition !) were liberated by officers and at least one ended up in Ripon Barracks, Bielefeld around 84/85.

Oh ! Brigadier Menendez's Double Bed was liberated by the LFFI Int & Sy Section and ended up in the New Hostel when we took over that building. Marine Tim D------, however, walked off with one of his Dress Uniforms ! Thank you RE Works Team for eventually getting some warm water running after two or three weeks - it was sheer luxury !
 

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