Falklands Referendum on Sunday/Monday.

#1
If the Islanders vote to stay British, will it stop Argentina from going on about it or will they say it was fixed. There are a number of observers and a shed-load of Journos and now that Chavez has shuffled off to the party bar in the sky, will the Argies lose some of the backing from other Latino countries?
 
#4
The Argentines refuse to recognise the legitimacy of the residents claim to have a say in their nationality/citizenship so they won't recognise the plebiscite no matter what the result.
 
#5
It was never for the benefit of the Argies (for whom "Las Malvinas son Argentinas" is every bit as much an article of faith as anything spouted by any religion), it was to make it clear to the rest of the world that Argentina is completely ignoring the islanders' inherent right to self-determination as guaranteed by the UN charter.

It won't change a great deal initially, but will make it a lot harder for most democratic countries (esp. the USA) to remain on the fence. Coupled with careful diplomacy from the FCO and, hopefully, bucketloads of cash from oil, it might just precipitate a few things.

Tubby's death won't change Venezuala's stance for the moment; the ones to watch in SA are Chile and Uruguay - they'll benefit the most from any oil money and have an inherent dislike/distrust of Argentina. Their "support" for Arg has been little more than lip-service so far. After a few years of the FIG's sovereign wealth fund investing billions (?) in their economies they may quietly tell Arg to "take it to the ICJ or STFU".
 

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#6
uraguay is the one to cosy up to - 10m dollars a day is being smuggled into its banks from argentine at the moment.

evil nigella is fcuked and she knows it. she'll carry on screwing the country then suddenly turn up somewhere else.
 
#7
Argentina isn't doing to well these days in this hemisphere - more eyes are on Chile than Argentina.
Kirchner is deflecting the woeful state of the economy and where its headed with a nationalistic diversion (worked great for Galtieri !)

But there are economic gains to be had obviously with fishing and mineral rights - hence the fact of ignoring what the inhabitants want - which does not sound at all colonial.
 
#9
The most sensible idea for this would be to snatch the body of Hugo Chavez and doing a low flypass over wherever the moody bint in Argentina resides and kick him out of the back with a note pinned to him saying "you're next".
 
#11
Damned immigrant residents with delusions of grandeur, taking over and speaking their outlandish tongue... why didn't they adopt the euro with the rest of Spain?
 
#14
As opposed to the legions of happy Argentines who frollocked peacefully on this bountiful garden of eden, and that they were cruelly evicted by a malicious empire who had the audacity to take over islands from a country that didnt actually exist at the time?
 
#18
Well it appears (as we needed convincing) their voices & cars are giving the 21 Century version of a Winston churchill message

The result of the two-day referendum is expected late tonight or early tomorrow.

Some 1,700 British adults out of a 2,900 population can vote and are expected overwhelmingly to back remaining an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom.



Keep your hands off our islands, Falkland voters tell Argentina | UK | News | Daily Express
 
#19
Well it appears (as if we needed convincing) their voices & cars are giving the 21 Century version of a Winston churchill message

The result of the two-day referendum is expected late tonight or early tomorrow.

Some 1,700 British adults out of a 2,900 population can vote and are expected overwhelmingly to back remaining an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom.



Keep your hands off our islands, Falkland voters tell Argentina | UK | News | Daily Express
 
#20
The argument that the Argies deploy is that we imported people to reside on the islands and therefore a vote by their descendants is irrelevant.

Load of shite, but that's what they say.


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The delicious irony of this situation is that the Argentine people themselves are settlers from the Iberian peninsula, not idigenous southern american Indians from whom they "took" the land. Therefore to complain about British colonialism is either a tongue-in-cheek sign of an extremely sophisticated humour or a denial of their own, equally murky past (if one takes the concept that colonialism is naughty).

A similar instance may be elicitted from your common-or-garden average Spaniard if you ask him/her/it why British control of Gibraltar is differnet from Spanish control of Melita and Ceuta and if they would accept a reciprocal hand-over of territory.
 

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