Falklands fuel question

#1
Does anyone know how much fuel was used by the British during the Falklands War?.

I know the Yanks gave us 12.5million gallons, I am trying to ascertain what % of the total fuel used that was.
Needless to say, I am in a friendly discussion on another (American) forum with someone who believes that the British 'relied' on US fuel (from Ascension) during the conflict.
 
#2
I think we can safely say that no one knows how much fuel was used during the Falklands War.

You might want to try and break it down a bit...

Fuel for all the airframes that operated out of Wideawake might be one category. Uncle Sam provided most of this.

Then there's the fuel that the Fleet used. This probably came from lots of sources - what it set sail with, what the RFAs replenished them with (where did they get it?)... Was the fuel that the Sea Harriers burned of US origin? Probably not.

I suspect that the petrol that the Blues and Royals had in their CVR(T) did not come from the US.

Hexamine Fuel - ditto.

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#4
Does anyone know how much fuel was used by the British during the Falklands War?.

I know the Yanks gave us 12.5million gallons, I am trying to ascertain what % of the total fuel used that was.
Needless to say, I am in a friendly discussion on another (American) forum with someone who believes that the British 'relied' on US fuel (from Ascension) during the conflict.
They probably billed us for supplies from Yank stocks. Are you breaking it down to Petrol, diesel, Naval oil, aviation.
 
#6
Does anyone know how much fuel was used by the British during the Falklands War?.

I know the Yanks gave us 12.5million gallons, I am trying to ascertain what % of the total fuel used that was.
Needless to say, I am in a friendly discussion on another (American) forum with someone who believes that the British 'relied' on US fuel (from Ascension) during the conflict.
How do you know that the yanks "gave" us 12.5 million gallons? or did they sell it to us.
 
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cloudbuster

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#7
Does anyone know how much fuel was used by the British during the Falklands War?.

I know the Yanks gave us 12.5million gallons, I am trying to ascertain what % of the total fuel used that was.
Needless to say, I am in a friendly discussion on another (American) forum with someone who believes that the British 'relied' on US fuel (from Ascension) during the conflict.
If you're after aviation fuel figures, ask on the mil board of PRuNe. There's bound to be some aging dullard SCAFite who'll have the figures written down in a little ledger on his bookshelf.
 
#8
Very disappointing for the Argentine intelligence agencies - they must have thought it would be a real doddle when they put together their "black hat" version of a re-invasion plan!
 

the_boy_syrup

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#9
If you're after aviation fuel figures, ask on the mil board of PRuNe. There's bound to be some aging dullard SCAFite who'll have the figures written down in a little ledger on his bookshelf.
I can hear the slide rule going now.

Does anyone know how much fuel was used by the British during the Falklands War?.

I know the Yanks gave us 12.5million gallons, I am trying to ascertain what % of the total fuel used that was.
Needless to say, I am in a friendly discussion on another (American) forum with someone who believes that the British 'relied' on US fuel (from Ascension) during the conflict.
I was there in 89 andd IIRC it was a queer set up with fuel etc.
All refuelling was done by underground pipes attached to platforms which conected hoses to the aircraft.
The Americans officially own the airfield under lend lease.
This fuel went through their system.

When we were doing the Phantom turnaround they used road tanks and were filed at the normal BFI

As visiting aircraft came in they had a carnet (sp) card which was like a credit cars
If you remember before chip and pin you stcuk in a machine with a paper ran it over the card got an imprint of teh card pilot signs
Card gets handed in and respective nation billed.
There were actually ownly two US Servicemen on the Airfield (think RAF oficer ON u.s. base in England) and some NASA personell.
Both BFI's were replenished by a super tanker.

I suspect what happened was similler to Cyprus in GW1.

RAF and Navy fly loads of kit down there are no Brits previously on the Island.
Fuel that is already on the Island is used to refuel kit as required
Navy and RAF go down and kick **** as required
Sail / fly back and use remaning fuel
After hosilities we replenish fuel and arrange airbridge RAF detachment arrive to run airbridge and tankers etc are brought in.
In Cyprus every nation flew something in USAF / RAF / RCAF / Spanish AF etc etc

12.5 million galons isn't alot when you think a Victor would take 21,000 Gallons at a pop
12 off them going out to refuel a Vulcan it soon eats it up.
 
#10
Being as the good old USA didn't bother their jacksies to let us know the Latinos were paddling their pablos over to invade, I would hazard we didn't get that much. There was major grief between US and UK over who was going to step down and I rather think Maggie god bless her Imperial Majesty stole the day.
So fuel, not a lot.
 
#11
I heard it all went down on the Conveyor anyway...
 
#13
Does anyone know how much fuel was used by the British during the Falklands War?.

I know the Yanks gave us 12.5million gallons, I am trying to ascertain what % of the total fuel used that was.
Needless to say, I am in a friendly discussion on another (American) forum with someone who believes that the British 'relied' on US fuel (from Ascension) during the conflict.
The total fuel usage was 117.89 million gallons and next time do your own research.
 
#17
Half of Bicester went down on the Conveyor.
My dad remarks that the ships that sunk must have been the size of small countries as everything from webbing and weapons to landrovers "went down" allowing certain QM's to double their stores.

A trick we were using in Iraq whenever a mortar hit anything Capable of containing more than a water bottle.
 
#18
IIRC, the only US heavy-hitter who opposed the UK was Ms Kirkpatrick at the UN. I think the deal agreed between Thatcher and Reagan (genuine good friends), was that the UK had an open cheque from US sources. FFS - how can anyone calculate how much of any war materiel will be used at the start of a conflict, the outcome of which no-one can predict?

Cheers,
Cliff
 

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