Fake Militrary Certificates of Achievement

#1
Has anyone seen this on E Bay?

Australian Army Sniper Certificate | eBay

The producer of these fake certificates states in his advertising "For personal use only", however who the heck purchases a fake certificate and then places it on their desk for personal use? The purpose of a certificate is defined by the Oxford Dictionary as "a document confirming that someone has reached a certain level of achievement in a course of study or training:".

In much the same way as the wearing of fake medals constitutes "stolen valor" these certificates undermine the efforts of those who legitimately achieved the qualifications.
 
#7
I still have my Secret Squirrel Club Certificate and Bazooka Joe code ring. Will this qualify me for the Int Corps?
I should think those that need to know, will know these are fake. Others who can't be bothered to check references properly, get what they deserve.
If they take them down the pub to pull a burd, good effort.
 
#8
To be honest in these PC times I try to hide my background (all of it, including my pisspoor military bit) at work and a home.

The last thing I would want would be a bit of paper on the desk or wall admitting my membership to an organization that would be bound to raise hackles with half the people who see it.

I get enough abuse as it is.
 
#9
I must admit, I've still got my Commision from HM, rolled up nice and safe in my wardrobe, but I'd be really hacked off if I found you get could get one on eBay. Mind you I don't stick it on the wall for everyone to see.
 
#10
I should think those that need to know, will know these are fake. Others who can't be bothered to check references properly, get what they deserve.
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You're quite correct. They will get what they deserve.

The bit which sticks in my throat is that I have no tertiary education qualifications and just my military experience to source offshore work. Now it seems that any prick can purchase a certificate and bluff their way into a job.
 
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#12
I can't see an unattributable piece of A4 getting you a job as a steely-eyed dealer of death offshore. Unless it's a C&G in catering.
 
#14
You can usually spot the fakes, though. Normally they have a spelling mistake in them, something like "Militrary Award".
The idiots who make them up don't know how to use a spell checker.
 
#17
You can usually spot the fakes, though. Normally they have a spelling mistake in them, something like "Militrary Award".
The idiots who make them up don't know how to use a spell checker.
Any decent employer will ask for a Transcription of your course results. Accredited institutions (universities, higher educational institutes, C&G, etc) will provide these direct to the employer for a modest fee.

A colleague of mine recently interviewed someone for a US GS (civil service) position who provided a number of 'NATO Training Certificates' with his resume. They looked reasonably pukka, apparently, but a quick call to NATO School in Oberammergau confirmed that they were fakes (the certificate design, though convincing, was nothing like the genuine ones...).
 
#18
After I left the mob I continued to work in the private sector as an Arms & Explosive Search dog handler for a number of years. Back then the only recognisable qualifications were military or police so you relied on your course certificates (although it was a close knit world where most of us knew or had at least heard of each other). I was asked to provide copies to a certain employer who turned out to be a complete walting cnut, I later supplied police statements when the shit was taken to court as it emerged he had taken my copied certificates, tipexed out my name and put his own on it then used this to gain contracts.

Just to top it all last I heard he was enjoying the good life in the USA training dogs for various back water police departments. Guess he forgot to mention the companies prosecution on his visa application then?
 
#19
I still have my Secret Squirrel Club Certificate and Bazooka Joe code ring. Will this qualify me for the Int Corps?
I used to have a U.N.C.L.E. membership card with my name on. It was useless, though - I must have been chucked out of every dry cleaners in our town as I tried to stroll through the back flashing my card.
 
#20
I used to have a U.N.C.L.E. membership card with my name on. It was useless, though - I must have been chucked out of every dry cleaners in our town as I tried to stroll through the back flashing my card.
You obviously failed to use your 'authentic' Ilya Kuryakin Russian accent.
I've found that bad drills in the cloak and dagger World of espionage can lead to serious consequences, a major wedgie or a nasty Indian burn at the very least.
Be careful out there in the cold before you come in, is my advice.
 

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