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Failure at RCB

#1
I failed main board RCB 2 years ago and was told that the advice they offer me is to go and search a career elsewhere. I was told I failed because I didn't prepare enough, wasn't fit enough and came across immature.

In the 2 years since my fail at RCB I have grown up a lot, become fitter and gained a lot of experience and believe I have overcome my failure at RCB

Does anyone know if it is possible to reapply to Army even though I was told to seek a career elsewhere? I know you are allowed to attempts at RCB - but is this still the case if you failed RCB as badly as I did?

Any serious answers would be greatfully received.
 
#2
benj1981 said:
I failed main board RCB 2 years ago and was told that the advice they offer me is to go and search a career elsewhere. I was told I failed because I didn't prepare enough, wasn't fit enough and came across immature.

In the 2 years since my fail at RCB I have grown up a lot, become fitter and gained a lot of experience and believe I have overcome my failure at RCB

Does anyone know if it is possible to reapply to Army even though I was told to seek a career elsewhere? I know you are allowed to attempts at RCB - but is this still the case if you failed RCB as badly as I did?

Any serious answers would be greatfully received.
Generally speaking if they suggest you do not reapply, then you are advised not to. You will probably only repeat the experience. If you feel that you are now more mature and have made considerable improvements to your fitness then I suggest you talk to your sponsoring arm or the local ACIO. Your written presentation suggests that you still might struggle by the way, although you may have posted the above in a rush.

On a more positive note, a lot of people fail their first RCB and then go on to successful careers. However they usually were people given the "six month watch" or green light to reapply with improvements to specific areas e.g. fitness.
 
#6
Sod it. Reapply anyway. The worst they can say is "No", and you're no worse off than you are now.

Having the balls to identify your weaknesses, work on them and come back for a second try is the stuff of a good potential officer.

IF
 
#8
maninblack said:
Or try via the TA as an interim measure.
SPLUTTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now, far be it for me to criticise a MOD but please tell me that's tongue-in-cheek.


TCB and RCB are identical standards. From 1st Jan 2006 they will be the same course!
 
#9
LawyerSquaddie said:
I thought that Cat 3 meant 'fail, but encouraged to reapply once remedied specified weaknesses'.
It's all in the pen-picture, but typically "encourage" would be a cat 2 with wording along the lines of, "The Board awards a CATEGORY 2 - imposing a delay of (n) months to give time for him/her to improve (whatever needs improving)"

3 is a fail neither encourage nor discourage but would highlight specific physical limitations if applicable. 4 is a not while fish swim in the sea.

Cat 3 for this poster - good advice above, if your sponsor wants to put you through again, it's his call....
 
#10
Or ( having begun by helpful posting earlier, I now revert to normal b'tard leanings) you might consider a commission in the Royal Crab Force? I believe even their drivers are commissioned...
 
#11
abacus said:
maninblack said:
Or try via the TA as an interim measure.
SPLUTTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now, far be it for me to criticise a MOD but please tell me that's tongue-in-cheek.


TCB and RCB are identical standards. From 1st Jan 2006 they will be the same course!
He can always enlist in the TA. Indeed, before DEPO it was mandatory for potential officers.
 
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#12
Why not join the ranks-I failed RCB, joined as a soldier-the training is less and you can have a great time pi$$ing it up against the wall and 15 years down the line get an LE commission-my first mess after commissioning was the HQ mess of the capbadge that told me to "find an alternative sponsor if you are considering another attempt".
 
#13
My friend (Mekon if you're out there), failed RCB and joined the ranks of the Sigs. This has given him the chance to mature and develop his self discipline, which eve he will admit was lacking. Since then he has been flying and has been pushed for promotion. He really has not looked back since.
 
#14
Cat 3 at Briefing in laymans terms is that they are not convinced you have it but you might aswell give it a go.

You then went on to RCB - main (fair play), but took a bit of a kicking. So be it, that was two years ago. If you have a say changed and ironed out your weaknesses then give it another crack. It is likely that your sponsor would have file 13 your P-file after your last report. So speak to them, out of interest who was it? They may be still able to put you through the process. Else speak to your local ACA(O).

You must be brutualy honest with yourself. Have you genuinely changed your personality or is it a fantasy in your mind. Its tough to see your own faults and even tougher to change our personality. Be under no illusion, RCB standards do not change.

Take a good look at yourself before heading down the route again.
 
#15
My sponsor was the D&Ds. I shall write to the Regt. Sec and see what he thinks.

However, as they are now going to Light Inf will the Officer recuiting still be dealt with by the D&Ds or the Light Div?
 
#16
Probably best to ask them direct, however I suspect that their Officer Recruitment will now come under the Light Infantry umbrella. Consider that you not only have D&D but also RGBW merging together with them to form a single battalion, thus it figures that if there is a larger recruitment area Vs. Less places, competion will increase. Basic economics (Supply and Demand!!). Add into this little mixer that Inf regiments are being capped on the amount of officers they can recruit a year, you begin to see that it may actually prove very difficult to get in if you are not pulling Cat 1 and straight passes out of the bag.

I am not trying to knock you fella. If you are up for it give it a go. Just be better prepared this time and be able to justify why you were not up to scratch last time, it will come up!
 
#17
Joker is right. Inf Bns are being capped and therefore competition will increase dramatically. However, as sponsership into Sandhurst has no bearing on your destination Regiment or Corps, you could always try again for sponsorship with someone like the RE, RS, or RA. These Corps have not been capped, therefore have less competition and are more likely to sponsor your second atempt.

You have nothing to lose. You will only spend the rest of your life thinking "What If".
 
#18
Inf Bns are being capped and therefore competition will increase dramatically
Does anyone know which regiments/corps are actually in demand at Sandhurst? Mr_De_Niro reckons that demand for Inf places outstrips supply and that he'd be better trying for RE, RS or RA. But I've heard RE recruiters say that there are 2 applications for every Engineer commision available.

Does demand for each reg/corps pretty much match supply? If not which ones are heavily in demand and which are not?

Tricam
 
#19
Info on quotas used to be available (haven't checked recently) on the MCM Div website on army.mod.uk RAC regiments were capped to 4 YOs each in 2004. When I was at RMAS the most underscribed Coprs was... RLC. I remember that 29 Cdo RA and 7RHA took one person each. But Engineer was ridiculously popular.
 
#20
tricam said:
Inf Bns are being capped and therefore competition will increase dramatically
Does anyone know which regiments/corps are actually in demand at Sandhurst? Mr_De_Niro reckons that demand for Inf places outstrips supply and that he'd be better trying for RE, RS or RA. But I've heard RE recruiters say that there are 2 applications for every Engineer commision available.

Does demand for each reg/corps pretty much match supply? If not which ones are heavily in demand and which are not?

Tricam
Every regiment and corps is capped. There are usually more than 2 applications per commission - why try for something you don't want to join - that is a defeatest attitude.

I will endeavour to get up to date figures for the next FY so you can have an look. Patience, please...

barbs
 

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