Failed Coup in Turkey: 15/07/2016

The more one see’s the more some think that Erdogan may have engineered an early/not completely prepared coup, to then be able to completely wipe out the opposition.

A purely idle speculation of course.
 
The more one see’s the more some think that Erdogan may have engineered an early/not completely prepared coup, to then be able to completely wipe out the opposition.

A purely idle speculation of course.
I have had the opportunity to observe Erdogan at close range. He's an absolute cnut, end of.
 
The more one see’s the more some think that Erdogan may have engineered an early/not completely prepared coup, to then be able to completely wipe out the opposition.

A purely idle speculation of course.
I used to think that he had set conditions for the coup attempt, but the Gülenist entryism was real, as was the body of Kemalist officers who were being marginalised and could not accept the socio-demographic and democratic shifts in the country.
 
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Turkey's Erdogan says will carry out new military operations after...
Erdogan says there’ll be new offensives after Op Euphrates Shield and Op Olive Branch. Looking at ‘clearing’ their border with Iraq. Apparently Afrin was an ‘epic’:
Speaking to thousands of supporters in Istanbul, Erdogan said Turkey’s operations along its southern border would continue “until not a single terrorist is left.”

“We will not give up on constricting terrorist organizations. In the new period, Turkey will add new ones to the Euphrates Shield and Olive Branch operations in order to clear its borders,” Erdogan said.

“We shattered the terror corridor being formed on our southern border with these operations. Our soldiers, who lastly wrote an epic in Afrin, are ready for new missions,” he said.
They appear to have reached an agreement with the US ref Manbij. ‘Militants’ will leave the area according to the Tr Foreign Minister. The Op against the Kurds in Iraq could be joint with Iraqi troops:
However, Ankara and Washington have reached an understanding on a roadmap in Manbij in which the militants will leave the area, Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said on Sunday, adding that the details were being discussed with the new U.S. secretary of state, Mike Pompeo.

Erdogan has also said Turkey could carry out a joint offensive against Kurdish militants in northern Iraq with Baghdad. Cavusoglu said the operation was still on the agenda.
 
Of course, Erdoğan is in full election mode. He chose to declare victory in Afrin on 18 March - Naval Victory Day and Day of the Martyrs (akin to Remembrance Day in the UK). And, to be fair, the seizure of Afrin Ciry happened very quickly - and with far fewer TUR and TBO casualties than western observers expected.
 
Turkey is definitely no friend of ours, a snake in the wood pile if you will . If it all kicks off I'd like to see them get all the us/nato hi tech they deserve. nato token effort obviously. frankly the whole landscape could do with tidying up.
 
Turkey's Erdogan says has never given up on goal of joining EU
WRT the election, Erdogan is saying the goal of EU membership is still part of his plans. They haven’t given up, albeit there’s been a ‘cooling’ since 2016:
Turkey has never given up its goal of joining the European Union, President Tayyip Erdogan said on Sunday as he announced his manifesto for next month’s snap elections.

Speaking to thousands of supporters in Istanbul, Erdogan said that Ankara’s counterparts in Europe did not show the same determination on the matter.

Turkey began talks to join the EU in 2005, 18 years after applying. While a series of factors slowed negotiations, notably the Cyprus issue and resistance in Germany and France to Turkish membership, since 2016 membership talks have all but collapsed.
Turkey's main opposition candidate demands more media coverage
Opposition leader upset about media coverage or lack of it:
“Television channels, which even broadcast the AK Party’s provincial congresses live, did not show our rally in Yalova live. We will go on by fighting with this media structure,” Ince said on Twitter on Sunday.

“If the media embargo ordered by the Palace continues, we will hold our rallies in front of TV stations,” he said, referring to the 1,000 room presidential palace built by Erdogan in Ankara.
Turkey says it will retaliate if U.S. halts weapons sales
Meanwhile, the Turkish Foreign Minister is upset the US have the temerity to decide who they should sell arms to:
In an interview with broadcaster CNN Turk, Cavusoglu said the measures in the bill were wrong, illogical and not fitting between the NATO allies.

“If the United States imposes sanctions on us or takes such a step, Turkey will absolutely retaliate,” Cavusoglu said. “What needs to be done is the U.S. needs to let go of this.”

The proposed U.S. National Defense Authorization Act, which is several steps from becoming law, would ask the Defense Department to provide Congress with a report on the relationship between the United States and Turkey, and would block the sale of major defense equipment until the report was complete.
 
Turkey is definitely no friend of ours, a snake in the wood pile if you will . If it all kicks off I'd like to see them get all the us/nato hi tech they deserve. nato token effort obviously. frankly the whole landscape could do with tidying up.
If what kicks off? I'm not sure I follow your post.
 
the turks having a proper dig at kurds/ypg types with the yanks standing with or between them. a bit like the little Russian (allegedly) backed outing that went so well.
 
the turks having a proper dig at kurds/ypg types with the yanks standing with or between them. a bit like the little Russian (allegedly) backed outing that went so well.
That's happened already, but not ivo US personnel. There has been probing around Manbij but not even the Turkish Army is stupid enough to directly confront US forces; I might add that a somewhat rogue CENTCOM is unlikely to come to the aid of PYD/YPG ("Yanks providing guns") if directly attacked by TUR or TBO. There was a lot of strong words during Op Zeytin Dalı, but no overt US support to YPG.

ETA: Nothing to do with NATO.
 

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