fail to pitch up at annual camp and.....

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  1. Curiosity question,

    should you fail to turn up to annual camp as per the notice up in the TAC (and didn't do/have a course in lieu) what is the section in the Army Act 2006 that covers it and if they were being really arsey what is the disposal for it?


    CP
     
  2. Immediate suspension of chocolate rations I hear.
     
  3. Not court Marshall followed by immediate death?
    Capt Darling MC
     
  4. If I were your PASO when you next turned up I'd chase you around the TAC, pin you down and skiff you.
     
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  5. Is that a Mexican Bum ****?
     
  6. Depends it is casual labour, although The Duke or MSR can explain from their point of view(they are officers after all).
     
  7. In all actuality - not a lot can be done,loss of bounty if non camp qualified for the year but until somebody enters the gates and signs the role for the first day of camp, they are not under military law and cannot be made to go.
     
  8. Its one of them I'm waiting for. We have just had our annual leave cut for next years Olympics and as a public order/CBRN/AFO I will have lots of extra training to do for covering the Olympics etc. So even though enough notice is given, I just want to know if its a chargeable offence etc.
     
  9. RFA 96, Chapter 14:


    22.—(1) A member of a reserve force may, in accordance with orders
    or regulations under section 4, be required by virtue of this section, in any
    year, to train in the United Kingdom or elsewhere for -
    (a) one or more periods not exceeding 16 days in aggregate; and
    (b) such other periods as may be prescribed, none of which shall
    exceed 36 hours without the consent of the person concerned;
    and such a person may, while undergoing a period of training under this
    section, be attached to and trained with any body of Her Majesty's forces.
    (2) Such orders or regulations may, in particular, prescribe different
    periods under subsection (1)(b) for different forces or parts of a force.
    (3) This section has effect subject to section 23.


    97.—(1) A member of a reserve force who has entered into a full-time
    service commitment or an additional duties commitment and, without
    leave lawfully granted or reasonable excuse, fails to appear at the time and
    place at which he is required to attend—
    (a) in the case of a full-time service commitment, to begin the period
    of full-time service contemplated by the
    (b) in the case of an additional duties commitment, to begin a period
    of service under the commitment,
    is guilty, according to the circumstances, of desertion or absence
    without leave.
    (2) A member of a reserve force who—
    (a) is required to undergo a period of training in accordance with
    section 22, a special agreement or an employee agreement (or
    any other requirement applicable to special members), and
    (b) fails, without leave lawfully granted or reasonable excuse, to
    appear at any time and place at which he is required to attend,
    is guilty of absence without leave.
    (3) An offence under this section is triable by court-martial or
    summarily by a civil court.


    98.—( 1) An offence under section 37 or 38 of the Army Act 1955 or the
    Air Force Act 1955 or section 16 or 17 of the Naval Discipline Act 1957
    (offences under service law of desertion or absence without leave)
    committed by a member of a reserve force is triable summarily by a civil
    court as well as by court-martial. leave.
    1955 c. 18.
    (2) A member of a reserve force convicted by court-martial of an
    offence under section 96(1) or 97(1) is punishable as for an offence under
    service law of desertion or absence without leave (as the case may be).
    (3) A member of a reserve force convicted by a civil court of—
    (a) an offence under section 96(1) or 97(1), or
    (b) an offence under service law of desertion or absence without
    leave,
    is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or a fine not
    exceeding level 5 on the standard scale (or both).
    (4) A person convicted of an offence under section 97(2) is liable—
    (a) if convicted by court-martial, to the same punishment as for an
    offence under service law of absence without leave;
    (b) if convicted by a civil court, to imprisonment for a term not
    exceeding 6 months or a fine not exceeding level 5 on the
    standard scale (or both).
    (5) A person convicted by a civil court of an offence mentioned in this
    section, if sentenced to a term of imprisonment or if such a term is
    imposed in default of payment of any fine, is liable to be taken into
    military, air-force or naval custody (as the case may require).

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1996/14/pdfs/ukpga_19960014_en.pdf

    Publicly available on the internet and locatable by Google.
     
  10. It's one of the few occasions when they can. Provided, of course, that they've indicated an intention to attend, e.g. by returning a Notice To Attend.
     
  11. You can do a short course 1 year in 3 iirc, msr will probably be able to give chapter and verse,
     
  12. I'll be expecting to see far more by way of 'compulsion' in the future of the TA - especially if there is an intention to provide formed sub-units at appropriate readiness.
     
  13. Although it's potentially a jailable (6 months) offence, the reality is that an absentee would just get the boot. Jail wouldn't be conducive with recruitment.

    In your case, you just have to inform your CO as soon as you know that you can't attend - even if it's a last minute thing. Your CO should give you permission to miss or defer Camp. It won't work if you book a last-minute holiday, though.
     
  14. I knew a USNG 1st Sgt who had one of his Pvts brought in to the Armory in handcuffs by the State Police for failing to turn up for a drill weekend. He was given a choice...pack your kit, and get ready to go...or straight to jail, do not collect $200!
     
  15. 6 months and £5000 isn't enough? Not to mention loss of earnings.