Facial Hair rules for ACF Adults.

#1
Pro-word: No-Wah!

I have recently completed my post-graduate degree. Suddenly, I find myself with some time on my hands. I have considered giving my time to a youth organisation for about 5 years now (but I haven't the free time until now). To this end I have answered an Ad in the local paper from the County-ACF asking for adult volunteers.

I have been invited to an interview in about a fortnight.

I wear a neatly clipped "chinstrap" beard.

There are a few reasons for this:
A) I am pale skinned and dark-haired. This means that I look very "blue chinned" and disreputable due to 5-o'clock shadow almost as soon as I've put the razor down.
B) My hair is very curly and I get razor-bumps every time I've tried to go clean-shaven.
C) My wife likes it.

So my questions are:

1) Will I get told to naff-off immediately for turning up to interview not clean-shaven?

2) Would I absolutely have to follow regular-army facial-hair rules if appointed to an ACF-detachment?

3) Do I have any sensible options both be an adult ACF member and to keep the facial fuzz?
See a doctor and ask for a note re: razor bumps?
Claim religious exemption? (I have Jewish roots, but I'm not Orthodox).
Beg to be appointed Pioneer-Sergeant immediately?

I'm sorry if I sound like I'm wanting to have my cake and eat it, but losing the beard would be a big step for me.
 
#5
You're meant to be setting an example. Not just in your appearance but in your attitude, the pathetic attempt at justify looking like a right scruffy **** is not acceptable.

It appears you are far too immature to take on the responsibility of adolescents.
 
#6
I presume with 235 posts to your name, and the pioneer sergeant knowledge, that you are ex-Army?

Facial hair seems to be about the only thing adults in the ACF do right. Whilst they manage to shave, the majority find it impossible to not appear obese or wear uniform correctly.

Frankly, I regard them as a worthwhile youth organisation, the same as the Scouts and Guides and that the adults are youth leaders, and nothing to do with the Army. In my mind, it is odd that as a volunteer youth leader, they can tell you to shave.

So, join and lose the beard, or grow a full beard and join the SCC.
 
#8
It's an interview to assist cadets not go on parade with the fecking guards!

If you after shaving, like myself, look like Simon Weston's uglier brother then you can:

Don't bother wet shaving at all
Use an electric razor
or
Go to a barber and get a proper shave off them
 
#9
It's not a wah

Queen's Regs are perfectly clear on facial hair.
Now tell me about the Sikhs?

Now tell me about the no-shave chits I've heard of on this very forum that deployable personnel seem to get if they have folliculitis barbae traumatica?

The regulation will have sub-paragraphs delineating it's legal derogations. Fortune favours the prepared mind.
 
#10
Now tell me about the Sikhs?

Now tell me about the no-shave chits I've heard of on this very forum that deployable personnel seem to get if they have folliculitis barbae traumatica?
Just **** off you prick. Why do you want to be an AI if you don't want to attain the appropriate standards?

Do you want to touch young boys?
 

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#11
Do you want to touch young boys?
Well, not to digress the discussion too much, surely being facially hirsute would mean he'd chafe on the thighs of his prospective charges?

Therefore I deduce through Holmesian deduction that he's probably not that way inclined.
 
#13
The regulations are there to cover you !

If you will be spending a considerable amount of time ******* young boys, and lets face it, that is what you joined for then the only evidence to prove your guilt will be stubble rash on their young peachy bottoms.

Clean shaven AI's will not be grassed up and also may fall into loving relationships with their young charges.
 
#16
Let me get this straight -

You have a beard, and want to keep it.
You're prepared to lie about your religion or medical condition in order to keep it.
You want to join an institution in which kids look up to you and rely upon you to guide them and instill a set of morals and values befitting of a potential future member of the Armed Forces.

All this to avoid shaving.


You're a ****.
 
#17
Lie? Lie! **** you!
First of all I've had the beard since I was 19, when I got fucked of with getting the folliculitis barbae on a regular basis and put the razor away. It came back when I spent 6 months working in a Bio-security level 2 lab a few years ago and shaved it off to get a good seal on a half-mask respirator. I couldn't wait to change post and grow it back.
Lie about my religion? No! There are different strands within modern Judaism. I'm from a family well integrated into wider British society, rather than the ultra-othodox - or Hassidic - type who try to shut the rest of the world out, but we grow beards. Tell me where the application form would require me to state a position on the Hassidic/conservative/liberal/reform spectrum within the faith?

Let me get this straight -

You have a beard, and want to keep it.
You're prepared to lie about your religion or medical condition in order to keep it.
You want to join an institution in which kids look up to you and rely upon you to guide them and instill a set of morals and values befitting of a potential future member of the Armed Forces.

All this to avoid shaving.


You're a ****.
 
#18
but we grow beards. Tell me where the application form would require me to state a position on the Hassidic/conservative/liberal/reform spectrum within the faith?
Grow beards or REQUIRED to grow beards?

I could be wrong but aren't Sikhs required to grow a beard and that is the difference. Not a preference but required by religion to grow one.
 
#20
Grow beards or REQUIRED to grow beards?

I could be wrong but aren't Sikhs required to grow a beard and that is the difference. Not a preference but required by religion to grow one.
It's a religious commandant in Judaism, too.

Because Christianity "builds on" Judaism, I'll quote from a modern language Old-Testament for clarity:
Leviticus 19:27
‘“Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.
(New International Version - UK)
 

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