F35 order to be halved

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  1. Good, this way the UK will be able to buy more A-400M......

  2. napier

    napier LE Moderator Reviewer

    About time, for both.
  3. Why napier? Is there a sudden shortage of hostile nations with air forces (and navies)? Anyway, "upto 150" is still the official line.
  4. For which the number 70 complies. :)
  5. meridian

    meridian LE Good Egg (charities)

    Or between 35 and 40, which is what we will end up
  6. Precisely. As long as the MoD can restrain itself from the urge to buy 151 or more, then the "official line" remains accurate albeit somewhat misleading.
  7. meridian

    meridian LE Good Egg (charities)

    I can see the RN having 1x CVF, a share of the 45-50 JCA that will more often than not be on land, an RFA that limps along with the last chicken in the shop kit, only 6 Astute and Type 45 and no FSC, just soldier on with 12 Type 23

    Still, the holy grail of CVF/JCA will have been achieved, the RN will be an overly top heavy force with marginal utility except for 'projecting power' against third raters
  8. There's no reason why a reduced F35 purchase now can't be augmented with additional orders later, if desired.
  9. I suspect there will plenty of desire for more, but the funding ... ????

    Maybe you don't consider (lack of) funding a reason, but I ...
  10. Indeed, we can expect a 20+ year production run. It's also worth keeping in mind that while we don't have a lot of money around, we don't have no money - it just seems that way because we're currently pushing so much through the system at the moment. Post-2015, the T45, Typhoon, Carrier and the bulk of the Astute and much of the C1/3 Herk replacement costs will have gone through, and the only uber-projects we'll have going on will be the Vanguard replacement. Most of the rest will be low-end stuff that can be done off-the-shelf if needs be.
  11. I see both CVF's getting built. It's a political purchase and, relatively speaking, a cheaper way to give the illusion of naval power. For the vast majority of the time, you're only going to see a single carrier operationally available and the 'normal' airwing will probably only require 10-12 JSFs.
  12. I had an interesting conversation a while ago with someone who argued that the only reason the RN wanted CVF was to justify getting the T45s (which would be needed to escort them). Not an argument I buy.

    If we want our navy to be able to go anywhere and do anything then CVF with F35 and / or a decent amphibious capability is necessary. The fleet has been gutted by successive salami slices not because CVF has starved the fleet of budget, but because politicians have wanted to achieve savings and successive 1SLs have had the carriers dangled in front of them as carrots to encourage them to take the stick.

    Commitment to the carriers hasn't shafted the RN, its the politicians.
  13. The whole article boils down to two anonymous sources, who are voicing an opinion and not policy or a decision. Where is the balance in the article?