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Berlusconi announced this evening that he has instructed the Eyetie MOD to begin troop withdrawals from Iraq in September.

Italy supplies the fourth largest contingent to the coalition, and Berlusconi claims that the public are tired of the war and want the troops back.

They have lost twenty-eight troops during their deployment, the latest being today when a soldier had an ND with his own weapon and managed to shoot himself.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4352259.stm


The BBC said:
Italy is to begin withdrawing its troops from Iraq in September 2005, Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has said.

He told Rai state television the pullout would take place "in agreement with our allies".

Italy has 3,000 troops in Iraq - the fourth largest foreign contingent.

Domestic opposition to Italy's involvement in Iraq intensified after the killing of an Italian agent by US troops in Baghdad earlier this month.

The surprise announcement came as Italy's lower house of parliament backed a recent Senate vote to extend the country's military presence in Iraq beyond June.

Mr Berlusconi has been one of US President George W Bush's staunchest allies in the US-led war in Iraq.

But, he said, after speaking to UK Prime Minister Tony Blair he concluded that public opinion in both countries favoured a troop withdrawal.

"In September we will begin a progressive reduction of the number of our soldiers in Iraq.

"I spoke to Tony Blair about it, and public opinion in our countries is expecting this decision," he told Rai.

He said the exact numbers would depend on the Iraqi government's ability to deal with security.

The BBC's Tamsin Smith in Rome says it is the first time Mr Berlusconi has suggested a timetable for withdrawal.

Relations between the United States and Italy were severely strained after secret service agent Nicola Calipari was shot dead by American troops in Baghdad on 4 March.

Mr Berlusconi said the US must accept responsibility for the shooting, which is being investigated by the US military.

Our correspondent says the Italian government is also mindful of local elections looming early next month.

Also on Tuesday, two other members of the US-led coalition in Iraq - the Netherlands and Ukraine - began a phased withdrawal from the country.

Main international troops in Iraq
US: 150,000
UK: 8,000
South Korea: 3,600
Italy: 3,085
Poland: 1,700
Ukraine: 1,600
Georgia: 898
Romania: 730
Japan: 550
Denmark: 496
Bulgaria: 450
Australia: 400
Source: Global Security
 
#3
Australian PM last week announced an increase to Australian troops of an extra 450 who will be tasked with protecting the Japs. This has predictably not gone down well with the WW2 vets but makes sense. Without protection the Japs would withdraw as well.

Is anyone very surprised by the Eytie decision?
 
#4
in other news, shares in the white flag industry plummet

but seriously, I think most of the top brass will have seen this coming a milf off, and have probaly already put in motion the steps 2 cover the italian ao
 

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Some sources have inferred that the Carabineri spat the dummy and decided to return home when they were mistaken for Fusiliers.
Allegedly.
 
#6
*Twaanng!* the elastic has snapped
 
#7
Birdie_Numnums said:
Australian PM last week announced an increase to Australian troops of an extra 450 who will be tasked with protecting the Japs. This has predictably not gone down well with the WW2 vets but makes sense. Without protection the Japs would withdraw as well.

Is anyone very surprised by the Eytie decision?
What do the Japs need protection for? They were paying all the local terrorists off when I was there, they'd only had one mortar attack in 6 months.

And no, I'm not surprised the Italians decided to leave a war early :lol:
 
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Cutaway said:


Some sources have inferred that the Carabineri spat the dummy and decided to return home when they were mistaken for Fusiliers.
Allegedly.
Those are Bersaglieri or 'Chicken Soldiers' as the Iraqis called them.:lol: Carabinieri wear a kind of spray-on blue uniform.

This won't make a huge difference because, despite the fact that the Italian Joint Task Force was at Bde + strength, they didn't and wouldn't conduct 'security' operations; only 'peacekeeping' and reconstruction, and the reality is that they did precious little of that. The Italian formula for staying out of trouble was to try to avoid leaving their bases if they possibly could.
 

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tomahawk6 said:
Hopefully by September the Iraqi's can take over the Italian area [they should be able to].
Of course, the locals already did that last year, for quite a while. Only when directly threatened by MND(SE) with Brits coming in to do the dirty work (e.g. any fighting) did the Eyeties dare to leave their base to re-start patrols and re-enter Nasiriyah. By then luckily all the locals had calmed down a bit.

Frankly, the sooner they go the better, they are an admin burden and f@ck all use to anyone. Talk up a storm, and do nothing.
 
#11
Increased debate about Bulgaria too reducing its commitment, having suffered a blue-on-blue fatality at hands of US forces on same day as the Italian casualty.
 
#12
Wednesday March 16, 09:23 AM

Britain will likely be asked to fill gap in Iraq left by Italy

LONDON (AFP) - More British troops will probably be asked to go to Iraq to help fill the void left by Italy's proposed withdrawal of its 3,000 troops there.

Charles Heyman, a senior defense analyst for Jane's Information Group, was quoted by the Press Association as saying it would cost tens of millions of pounds for Britain to supply the extra troops for six months.

A large number of the Italians are under British control in the southern half of Iraq, and finding replacements will be as much a problem for the British as it is for the United States, he was quoted as saying on Wednesday.

Many of the Italian troops are based in the town of Nasiriyah within the Multi-National Division South East, which is headed by British forces but have personnel from other nations under their command.

Heyman said that Nasiriyah had been relatively quiet recently, but the predominately Shiite Muslim area had the potential to become volatile.

"There's no doubt whatsoever that the embryonic Iraqi security forces are really not capable of controlling the area -- they need coalition forces to support them," he said.

"It's going to leave a big hole, there's no doubt about that. My gut feeling is that it's going to be hard to find a contingent to replace them.

"I think it's almost impossible for the Americans to produce another 3,000 extra troops.

"We're probably going to be asked to help to fill the gap," Heyman said.

At present, there are around 8,000 British troops in total in Iraq.
full story at http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050316/323/feclp.html
 
#13
Meanwhile, in London British troops (Regular & TA) provide Guards of Honour for the Presdent of our 'glorious ally'.

Funny old world ..... wonder what'll happen if he drives up to the US embassy this evening at 100mph !.
 
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Heyman is talking through his arse. Dhi Qar province has been under the de facto 'control' of Iraqi security forces and Shi-ite Militias since the Americans pulled out in July 2003. The Italians secured their bases - not too well in the case of the Carabinieri - and that was it. They did the occasional vehicle mounted patrol but that was it. Surge ops? Forget them.

Putting Brits in there would be a mistake now. The locals are used to doing things for themselves and would probably find us too heavy handed.
 

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hup-two-three said:
OldSnowy said:
Frankly, the sooner they go the better, they are an admin burden and f@ck all use to anyone. Talk up a storm, and do nothing.
LOL. I'd love to read what the Italian equivalent of arrse would say about us.
For a start it wouldn't be called Arrse - Seductively Soft Round Altarboy Buttocks possibly.
 
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Of course, with the Italians pulling out, it will give us outsiders a chance to check the results of the southern Iraq international corruption competition. Who managed to rip off the most during the Italians' tenure in Nasiriyah: Italians or Iraqis?
 
#19
no , this is their barstard child , who think corruption from the president down is fine , and have a thousand ways of saying " i give up"


backsliding arrse pinching handbag carrying ice cream guzzling side changing mono browed c-unts.

and pizza ...... what the f-uck is that sh-ite all about , £14.99 for glorified cheese on toast .... shove it you c-unt.

italian cuisine .... what sauce do you want on your pasta because i'm too f-ucking idle to cook a proper meal

italian wine .... lambrusco .... nuff said

italian football ..... i've seen primary school kids stay up better after tackles that have grown men rolling around like they've been sniped from row z

italian women ..... time bomb ticking ... one day a dark haired doe eyed lovely ... next day a 30 stone mostachioed swamp donkey

i've only got one good thing to say about italy ....

..... er ... no i haven't , they're all dogs cocks.
 
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shortfuse said:
no , this is their barstard child , who think corruption from the president down is fine , and have a thousand ways of saying " i give up"


backsliding arrse pinching handbag carrying ice cream guzzling side changing mono browed c-unts.

and pizza ...... what the f-uck is that sh-ite all about , £14.99 for glorified cheese on toast .... shove it you c-unt.

italian cuisine .... what sauce do you want on your pasta because i'm too f-ucking idle to cook a proper meal

italian wine .... lambrusco .... nuff said

italian football ..... i've seen primary school kids stay up better after tackles that have grown men rolling around like they've been sniped from row z

italian women ..... time bomb ticking ... one day a dark haired doe eyed lovely ... next day a 30 stone mostachioed swamp donkey

i've only got one good thing to say about italy ....

..... er ... no i haven't , they're all dogs cocks.
Excellent! :D
 
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