Extinction Rebellion protesters - what to do?

Bollocks. If they meant it they'd be doing something about it.


But its far safer to make everyone life miserable in Cambridge because they know they won't be on the receiving end of a Machine gun, plus they can get all their little comforts and live at home.
If they were doing something in China or India, I'd cheer them on. Attacking my home city however, one famous for cycling, then they seem like limp ******* with no conviction.
It would seem a simple matter to blockade the Chinese, Indian, US, Russian, [add further polluters here] embassies, to a much more effective level than was managed with the South African one all those years ago. Yet XR aren't doing so. Curious isn't it?
 

offog

LE
Well firstly the coal in this country is high in sulphur and mercury, making it expensive to process prior to burning. In other words, it was bad coal. (called sour coal, requiring enormous investment in infrastructure to process it in order not to emit sulphur dioxide and kill the trees).
May be true but the mines were far to expensive to run compared to other countries where they use big shovels to pick it up from the surface that's why they closed.

Nuclear is fine except you need somewhere to stash the radioactive waste for 100,000 years. Carbon capture doesn't work.
We would solve the problem in a hundred if that if we had to.
The thinking now is that rather than having huge electricity stations we move to DC and smaller, local generation and storage.
Funny that, Edison came up with that idea over 100 years ago, didn't go very far a bit like the electricity he produced. Storage is the problem and until we have a cheap, practical method it's a no go. How much rare metals would this require as well as producing all those car batteries.

As for Greenpeace- Sellafield can't process the waste from the reactors being decommissioned right now so it's a good job really. Thorium reactors are a good option but take a long time to develop.
And why can't Sellafield process the waste? Could it be due to the actions of Greenpeace? Another group who lie and misdirect.
 

Kevll@r

Clanker
It would seem a simple matter to blockade the Chinese, Indian, Egyptian, [add further polluters here] embassies, to a much more effective level than was managed with the South African one all those years ago. Yet XR aren't doing so. Curious isn't it?
Not really. Google "protests outside embassies uk"

So, you're wrong. They do protest outside embassies. And are arrested. The idea of blockading an embassy is ludicrous- the cops wouldn't have it and they know it.
 

Kevll@r

Clanker
May be true but the mines were far to expensive to run compared to other countries where they use big shovels to pick it up from the surface that's why they closed.


We would solve the problem in a hundred if that if we had to.


Funny that, Edison came up with that idea over 100 years ago, didn't go very far a bit like the electricity he produced. Storage is the problem and until we have a cheap, practical method it's a no go. How much rare metals would this require as well as producing all those car batteries.


And why can't Sellafield process the waste? Could it be due to the actions of Greenpeace? Another group who lie and misdirect.
1) Cleaner cheaper coal- why buy british expensive dirty coal?
2) Solve the problem of radioactive decay in 100 years? There is one way- use it as a neutron source for thorium reactors, but that'll never happen.
3) Edison may well win- 100 years after Tesla won with his (then) far better high-voltage long distance transmission. You're right about the materials for storage, but vanadium is one option if a little bulky.
4) Sellafield is a mess, underfunded, dangerous and doesn't have the capacity for the amount of spent fuel it is required to reprocess. That's not greenpeaces fault, that's BNFL and the government.

Can we agree on at least one thing? We need a better answer to our power needs.
 
I support them totally. Fair play to them. Just because they look like hippies doesn't mean they don't have a point.

It's a pretty big deal- you'll think a traffic jam is a Christmas present when the runaway greenhouse effect causes the biggest shit-show since the dinosaurs went extinct. If it was just left to carbon emitters, ignorant governments and big business our kids will have to deal with a burden we failed to bear. But sure- that's not our problem, right?

At least XR are doing SOMETHING even if it is gluing their tits to the M6. The inconvenient truth is that they're right.

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You can prove anything with statistics, like global warming is caused by lack of pirates

 
You'd cheer them on, going to China to get locked up or worse? Nice one. I'd say gluing yourself to a motorway takes conviction. All this "China builds a coal power station every week" is rubbish. Governments are slowly realising that climate change is bad for business. And what kind of dick draws cartoons mocking a kid?
What kind of dick walts as a Nazi and uses their child for propoganda, like they're some sort of Aryan mong chops
 
I could watch the 55" telly instead? Don't be daft. Besides I've got a few other tabs open with some educational videos.
Looking at xHamster will get you hot and bothered and contribute to global warming
 

offog

LE
Well we could use the 100Bn from HS2 and build a tidal lagoon in the Severn estuary. We could invest in power storage- we could build more nuclear. It's do-able- if you just remove the consultants and red tape. That's the point of XR- they're pointing out the urgency. I don't agree with their "demands" per se, but they've started a conversation at least.
No you can't the RSPB will be chaining themselves to the diggers. Power storage is reliant on batteries and there isn't enough rare earth mineral to fill our needs.

The red tape is a direct result of all the protest by the current ER who have moved on from the last protest.
 
Not really. Google "protests outside embassies uk"

So, you're wrong. They do protest outside embassies. And are arrested. The idea of blockading an embassy is ludicrous- the cops wouldn't have it and they know it.
One or two days a month, a couple of dozen people, outside different embassies each time? That's hilariously ineffective. A permanent presence, potentially for years, the chasing down of everyone who goes in and out -- these actions are do-able and yet not done.
 

ancienturion

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Kevll@r

Clanker
No you can't the RSPB will be chaining themselves to the diggers. Power storage is reliant on batteries and there isn't enough rare earth mineral to fill our needs.

The red tape is a direct result of all the protest by the current ER who have moved on from the last protest.
There is quite enough of the necessary chemicals to meet our needs. Google is your friend. As for the RSPB- a big scrap between them and XR would settle that :)
 
They managed to get there message to thousands without paying a penny. Got to give credit where it’s due.
With George Soros giving them a load of wonga to finance it, which really goes along with their anti capitalist credentials
 

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