But when the lazy techs put in their 6*4 table tops and beds on top , and one day it rains and the beds short out the batteries and the whole thing starts to burn and you are in the middle of a German forest and , well stuck, buggered , fucced. What do you do?
never had that problem in my recce rover - I stayed curled up in the passenger seat listening to the battalion netBut when the lazy techs put in their 6*4 table tops and beds on top , and one day it rains and the beds short out the batteries and the whole thing starts to burn and you are in the middle of a German forest and , well stuck, buggered , fucced. What do you do?
As a Tech who did this, I took my maggot into the woods and slept until the REME arrived.
I think the start point would be your target audience being the scouts and any requirements rather than deciding at the outset to go internal or external frame. Being kids to teens you need to work out what they will need to carry in the first place and in what environment. Then whatever packs will meet this will need to fit them, be as lightweight, good quality (and most likely as economical) as possible. That should at least wind it down to a few pack designs that meet the requirement. From there your budget will narrow it down more and give you a couple to choose from be the internal or external framed, remembering you get what you paid for.As some of you may know I help with a local Boy Scouts of America troop. The Troop master, old school Scout from Nebraska is convinced that his exterior framed Rucksack is the way to go. I assume this is based on his upbringing and the Alice pack of Vietnam era.
His main preference comes from the hip support and that it allows air to pass around his back being less sweaty.
My opinions are entirely biased based on the OG and DPM Bergans that we had when in green and the brief and horrible experience with the 320 when it was frame mounted. I far prefer our issued kit (though not, obviously the Larry Large pack). Obviously also when I look at a frame keeping the weight further from your body the cantilever effect of the weight makes the frame nonsense to my mind. But then I remember the old SAS Bergan and those guys knew a thing or two about weight carrying...
So whats the DS Solution and has anyone anything good to say about the exterior frame?
I had one of those. I swapped it for something or other. I wish I still had it so I could Ebay it, as I understand they're quite rare. I ended up with a Karrimor Jaguar S85 which was high-end kit in the mid '80s. The only ball-ache was the long back and waist belt. Folding the belt back sort of defeated the object but it wasn't so bad. The 58 kidney pouches had to go though. It had bendable stiffeners for back shape. Still have it and still going strong.Anyone remember the Arctic warfare H frame jobs ? Pre PLCE, they were the "military" option to forking out for a Berghaus Cyclops Roc.