Explantion of LOA

#3
I also found this (albeit slighty out of date) from BFG.


A review of LOA will be conducted this summer and any changes implemented adopted from October 2005. The cost of the following aspects will be part of there review:

Meals Out, Drinks out, Mess Functions, Drinks in Mess, Food in Mess, Home

Entertainments, Food at Home, Drinks at home, Public transport, Recorded Music, Newspapers/Magazines, Telecommunications, Sports & Hobbies, Dry Cleaning, Laundry, Running a Car, Household cleaning materials, Stationary/Postage, Toiletries, Clothing, Cigarettes, Hairdressing, Cinema/Spectator Sports, Toys, Babysitting, TV/Video, Domestic Assistance, Bank Charges and Leave Accommodation.

The evidence generated from the most recent survey indicates that the lifestyle of single and married personnel is broadly similar to that found during the 1999 survey. However, one characteristic of the Married Accompanied (MA) lifestyle has varied considerably. For MA personnel only, LOA includes a contribution towards the cost of Baby-sitting. The survey results showed that the use of Baby-sitters has reduced from 6.5 hours per week, to 5 hours every 2 weeks. This usage will now be subject to further on-site validation to ensure that inclusion of baby-sitting costs in LOA calculations is justified. This decrease in usage will undoubtedly result in a marked reduction in the daily rate of LOA for MA personnel.

Telephone usage is also under review and it has been agreed that it was unfair to include a lesser sum for telephone calls in the LOA calculations than that provided for within the Operational Welfare package (OWP). The OWP provides for 20 minutes of telephone calls to the UK per week. LOA currently gives MA personnel 16 minutes per week and single/married unaccompanied personnel 12 minutes per week. Fortunately one thing that has changed for the better is that during the review cycle the LOA rates set will include provision for 20 minutes of telephone calls to the UK for all personnel.



The extent of any LOA rate change that will result from the findings of the review will not be known until the calculations are completed during Summer 2005. The results will then be published in time to give at least 2 months notice of any reduction in the rate of LOA. Although the exercise has not as yet been conducted, it is fairly certain that the rate of MA rate will reduce. The rates for single/married unaccompanied personnel are expected to increase in some areas and decrease in others.
 
#4
So what they're saying is cos the Hubby is away all the time the missus isn't going out so the local pad brat isn't getting her baby sitting money so LOA should be cut to reflect that fact.


Neat trick......Blaming the lack of socialising by Couples for the cut in LOA.
 
#6
Don't know if this will work...here goes. (New rates are the top ones, 1st column Single, Next married Unaccompanied, Married and etc etc). If you acn't make head nor tail of this floow address, but you need an Army net account. http://www.armysearch.mod.uk/cs.htm...t/dib2007_01.pdf&qt=loa&col=armynet&n=1&la=en

LOCAL OVERSEAS ALLOWANCE (LOA) – GERMANY (MAIN)
COMPARISON OF LOA RATES FOLLOWING
LOCAL OVERSEAS ALLOWANCE UPDATE IN JULY 2006

M+O M+1 M+2 M+3 CHILD
ADD
LT GEN & ABOVE 8.22 15.13 15.57 17.17 18.33 19.06 .73
MAJ GEN 8.13 15.04 15.41 16.99 18.14 18.86 .72
BRIG 8.04 14.95 15.23 16.80 17.94 18.65 .71
COL 7.95 14.86 15.07 16.62 17.75 18.45 .70
LT COL 7.22 14.13 13.07 14.40 15.37 15.98 .61
MAJOR 6.50 13.41 11.07 12.17 12.98 13.51 .53
CAPT 5.78 12.69 9.07 9.95 10.61 11.05 .44
LIEUT & BELOW 5.06 11.97 7.07 7.73 8.23 8.58 .35
WO1 4.25 11.15 15.41 16.99 18.14 18.85 .71
WO2/SSGT 4.08 10.98 13.79 15.19 16.21 16.85 .64
SGT 3.90 10.80 12.18 13.40 14.29 14.87 .57
CPL 3.73 10.63 10.56 11.60 12.37 12.87 .50
BELOW CPL 3.56 10.46 8.94 9.80 10.44 10.87 .43

EXISTING
LOSLOA M+O M+1 M+2 M+3 CHILD ADD

LT GEN & ABOVE 11.36 18.18 17.94 19.94 21.43 22.40 .97
MAJ GEN 11.22 18.04 17.75 19.73 21.20 22.17 .96
BRIG 11.09 17.91 17.56 19.51 20.97 21.92 .96
COL 10.96 17.78 17.37 19.30 20.74 21.69 .95
LT COL 9.88 16.70 15.03 16.70 17.96 18.80 .84
MAJOR 8.81 15.63 12.70 14.11 15.19 15.93 .74
CAPT 7.74 14.56 10.36 11.51 12.41 13.04 .64
LIEUT & BELOW 6.67 13.49 8.02 8.92 9.63 10.17 .53
WO1 5.90 12.71 17.01 18.89 20.30 21.22 .93
WO2/SSGT 5.62 12.43 15.21 16.90 18.17 19.02 .85
SGT 5.33 12.14 13.41 14.90 16.03 16.80 .77
CPL 5.05 11.86 11.62 12.91 13.90 14.59 .69
BELOW CPL 4.77 11.58 9.83 10.92 11.77 12.38 .61
 
#7
Bollox...the final colum is per child after M+3

So for e.g

LT GEN & ABOVE 8.22 15.13 15.57 17.17 18.33 19.06 .73

£8.22 Single
£15.13 Married unaccompanied
£15.57 Married +0
£17.17 Married +1
£18.33 Married +2
£19.06 Married +3
£0.73 Per child there after
 
#8
Kitmarlowe said:
So what they're saying is cos the Hubby is away all the time the missus isn't going out so the local pad brat isn't getting her baby sitting money so LOA should be cut to reflect that fact.


Neat trick......Blaming the lack of socialising by Couples for the cut in LOA.
Tell you what, they base findings on a questionaire asked to personnel/families in UK, thats right, UK based personnel, where extended families are on (in some cases) the door step to help with Baby Sitting etc, how can the LOA evaluation team assess LOA by asking questions outside of said LOA area. BARKING :frustrated:
 
#10
Longjohnsilvers right
A couple of years ago, when I was stationed at JHQ I was in a LOA review group. The reviews let slip that the LOA review was conducted on UK soldiers. We argued the fact with them (no family back up for baby sitting) and that the 7 hours a fortnight (UK average, so the reviews quoted) was no use to us in Germany, but to no avail they (the Government bean counters) had already made up there minds and that was that.
What I would say if anybody is on one of these focus groups talk about:
1. ‘Bret weekends’ (may be Brent). LOA takes into account 9 weekends away from the wire, so B&B rates, motor mileage etc is paid into the LOA fund for the time away. Tell these people 9 weekends are not enough, you take more and stay in posh hotels.
2. LOA baby sitting money is multi million pound, and we were told it makes up 60% of the LOA budget. Because of the spouse is away so often, when they are back you need time alone “Just the two of us”. Average say 10 hours a week.
3. Never tell them you shop away from the NAAFI (more money there).
4. When the review group do there ‘shopping basket’ recce give them the address of the most expensive shops around.
5. LIE
 
#11
Old_Sparky_RE said:
Longjohnsilvers right
A couple of years ago, when I was stationed at JHQ I was in a LOA review group. The reviews let slip that the LOA review was conducted on UK soldiers. We argued the fact with them (no family back up for baby sitting) and that the 7 hours a fortnight (UK average, so the reviews quoted) was no use to us in Germany, but to no avail they (the Government bean counters) had already made up there minds and that was that.
What I would say if anybody is on one of these focus groups talk about:
1. ‘Bret weekends’ (may be Brent). LOA takes into account 9 weekends away from the wire, so B&B rates, motor mileage etc is paid into the LOA fund for the time away. Tell these people 9 weekends are not enough, you take more and stay in posh hotels.
2. LOA baby sitting money is multi million pound, and we were told it makes up 60% of the LOA budget. Because of the spouse is away so often, when they are back you need time alone “Just the two of us”. Average say 10 hours a week.

3. Never tell them you shop away from the NAAFI (more money there).
4. When the review group do there ‘shopping basket’ recce give them the address of the most expensive shops around.
5. LIE
Like I said.....BARKING!!, how on earth can they justify that.
 

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