ex service and asked to be a witness

#1
Hi, been out the army approx 7 years and did a tour inbetween. RMPs now want me to make a statement as my attached unit have had a complaint against them.

Am I obliged to give a statement, don't particularly want to ask the RMPs as pretty sure they will try to blag me. Links would be appreciated.

PS I no longer have any reserve liability and have tried the usual channels but nobody seems to know......
 
#2
warpig said:
Hi, been out the army approx 7 years and did a tour inbetween. RMPs now want me to make a statement as my attached unit have had a complaint against them.

Am I obliged to give a statement, don't particularly want to ask the RMPs as pretty sure they will try to blag me. Links would be appreciated.

PS I no longer have any reserve liability and have tried the usual channels but nobody seems to know......
As far as I'm aware the RMP have to act under PACE the same as the civvy cops. If you're worried take a solicitor along.
As to whether you're obliged to give a statement, are you prepared to stand back and see mates dropped in it for the want of someone to stand up on their behalf?
 
#5
" Sir, I have no recollection of said incident"
 
#6
Hi Gents

Thanks for the responses. Yes, it is a serious matter (as this supposedly happened on tour I think you can guess what I am refering to) and I honestly did not see anything remotely dodgy.

This is the 2nd time I have been asked to give a statement (both unrelated to each other) whilst as a civvie, so getting a bit peeved. I do not expect my employer will want to release me from work to attend numerous events concerning what will be a lengthly process.

Anyway, my N.O.K. has told me there is a recorded letter at the post office waiting for me, so I'll go down and pick it up tomorrow (damn the 24hrs turnaround!) and see if they reference any acts etc.
 

ugly

LE
Moderator
#8
Does the courts witness section still exist? Lots of ex servicemen were dealt with by them!
 
#10
So next time someone on here bitches about someone undeserving getting a million in compensation we can thank you? Right?
 
#11
warpig said:
Hi Gents

Thanks for the responses. Yes, it is a serious matter (as this supposedly happened on tour I think you can guess what I am refering to) and I honestly did not see anything remotely dodgy.

This is the 2nd time I have been asked to give a statement (both unrelated to each other) whilst as a civvie, so getting a bit peeved. I do not expect my employer will want to release me from work to attend numerous events concerning what will be a lengthly process.

Anyway, my N.O.K. has told me there is a recorded letter at the post office waiting for me, so I'll go down and pick it up tomorrow (damn the 24hrs turnaround!) and see if they reference any acts etc.
Bloody rugby tours got a lot to answer for. Remember - what goes on tour etc .....!!
 
#12
warpig said:
smudge67 said:
What did you do?
Sweet FA (I know, on here it's mostly a 'friend' right :oops: ).
That old chestnut ;)

Can you not write something along the lines of "I've no idea what you're talking about, stop waisting both my time, and yours please"?
 
#13
I came across pretty much the same sort of situation last year. SIB were accompanied by MDP CID in that particular instance who unlike RMP have the powers of a constable in a Home Office Police Service. The guy concerned was arrested and interviewed under PACE by the MDP for an incident whilst he was serving. He was later prosecuted by the CPS at Magistrates Court and convicted for perverting the course of justice.
 

oldbaldy

LE
Moderator
#14
warpig said:
Anyway, my N.O.K. has told me there is a recorded letter at the post office waiting for me, so I'll go down and pick it up tomorrow (damn the 24hrs turnaround!) and see if they reference any acts etc.
Don't collect the letter, eventually it will be returned to them & you have no knowledge of the contents.
 
#15
warpig said:
Hi Gents

Thanks for the responses. Yes, it is a serious matter (as this supposedly happened on tour I think you can guess what I am refering to) and I honestly did not see anything remotely dodgy.

This is the 2nd time I have been asked to give a statement (both unrelated to each other) whilst as a civvie, so getting a bit peeved. I do not expect my employer will want to release me from work to attend numerous events concerning what will be a lengthly process.

Anyway, my N.O.K. has told me there is a recorded letter at the post office waiting for me, so I'll go down and pick it up tomorrow (damn the 24hrs turnaround!) and see if they reference any acts etc.
If you "did not see anything remotely dodgy", the prosecution are unlikely to call you as a witness in any eventual proceedings. If for some reason your evidence is helpful to the defence, do you really want to deprive former comrades of your potential testimony, because it might be a little inconvenient to take expenses-paid time off work?

It is not unusual to be asked to co-operate with investigators, or to give evidence, even if one is no longer working for the same employer. You would expect an ex police officer, for example, to be prepared to give evidence about something which happened while they were on the force.

I've had requests to cooperate with investigators after tours which I had been on and it frankly did not occur to me to refuse.

RMP/MDP should be prepared to interview you at a time and place to suit you. If you incur any expenses, ask them in advance for agreement to reimburse.

You're welcome to contact me by PM if that would be helpful.
 
#16
In case anyone is interested I decided to man up and give a statement. Really glad I did this despite the interview lasting longer than expected. I was flapping for no reason!

Thanks for all the replys.

Cheers
 
#17
warpig said:
In case anyone is interested I decided to man up and give a statement. Really glad I did this despite the interview lasting longer than expected. I was flapping for no reason!

Thanks for all the replys.

Cheers
Good effort. Thanks for the update, warpig.
 
#18
verticalgyro said:
I wonder sometimes, what will help the RMP to remove the traditional mistrust that the rest of the army has for them? Speed traps on camp every morning and snotty notices pinned to cars for parking infringements can hardly help the RMP.
You are 100% right there Verticalgyro. RMP should just let anybody park where ever they decide they want to, and let them drive as fast as they want.

It would make them really popular with everyone except those knocked down and crippled/killed by speeders or because cars were parked in locations that obscured others vision.

Sometimes I despair at the thickness of some people :rmp:
 
#20
Cairngorm said:
I agree with tropper, SIB came to interview me re a past event and I gave same reply, end of.
I bet you are one of those moaners who complains when child molesters get off because there is not enough evidence to convict them.

Come back when you grow a backbone
 

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