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Everything you could possibly want to know about Warrants

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Have any US warrants had any problems with the Brits concerning our rank? They don't understand we're officers.

Anyone else had the same problem?
 
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I get confused with all yank ranks. Are we supposed to Salute Warrant Officers then?

Pictures of who to/not to salute would be handy.

A confused stab.
 
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From the Department of Defence link i provided New_WO1 it would appear that you are NOT all entitled to a salute. Quote below.

The lowest ranking warrant officers serve under a warrant, but they receive commissions from the president upon promotion to chief warrant officer 2.
 
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New_WO1 said:
We're all officers, even the junior warrants and we're entitled to a salute.

So you eat drink etc in the officers mess? and have officers married quarters? and who has signed your 'warrant'? what does it say on it? do you get one? and a commision at the same time?

My warrant is signed by the UK Defence Minister, and if you can speak Olde Englishe, you can have a look at it sometime. BUT, I wasnt a commsioned officer, I used to work for living!!!

*holding the rod high ready for the bites to come in*
 
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antphilip said:
From the Department of Defence link i provided New_WO1 it would appear that you are NOT all entitled to a salute. Quote below.

The lowest ranking warrant officers serve under a warrant, but they receive commissions from the president upon promotion to chief warrant officer 2.
right. not only am I not going to salute you but I'll punch you as well for being a cheeky cnut.
 
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Lairdx said:
antphilip said:
From the Department of Defence link i provided New_WO1 it would appear that you are NOT all entitled to a salute. Quote below.

The lowest ranking warrant officers serve under a warrant, but they receive commissions from the president upon promotion to chief warrant officer 2.
right. not only am I not going to salute you but I'll punch you as well for being a cheeky cnut.
Laird, you're going to have to stop doing that pal - I've just pebble dashed my monitor with my lunch.
 
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New_WO1 said:
We're all officers, even the junior warrants and we're entitled to a salute.
I presume that's based on the word 'officer' in Warrant Officer, in which case do you believe that Corporals and Sergeants are similarly entitled, their being Non Commissioned Officers?
 
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New_WO1 said:
Have any US warrants had any problems with the Brits concerning our rank? They don't understand we're officers.

Anyone else had the same problem?
Can't understand why you've come on here and asked such a stupid question, all you're going to get is abuse.
 
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Bravo2nothing said:
New_WO1 said:
Have any US warrants had any problems with the Brits concerning our rank? They don't understand we're officers.

Anyone else had the same problem?
Can't understand why you've come on here and asked such a stupid question, all you're going to get is abuse.
Can't think where you get that idea???
 
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You may get a salute from your septic tank sentry guards; flipping their wrists and waving at you (looking more like window lickers going mmllllaaaaaaaar, mmmlllllaaaaaaar in Brit opinion), but you are not entitled to a salute from any British soldier. They should address you as 'Sir' rather than the "Oi Yank! Fac orrf you up-tight cnut and take the broom handle out yer arrse!" that you may be more used to.

Brits salute the Queen's Commission and not the Warrant. If you are that keen on collecting salutes you are obviously unworthy of the rank and ought to join the boy-scouts instead.
 
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Dread said:
They should address you as 'Sir' rather than the "Oi Yank! Fac orrf you up-tight cnut and take the broom handle out yer arrse!" that you may be more used to.
Ah. Now I see what I'm doing wrong.
 
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Lairdx said:
Dread said:
They should address you as 'Sir' rather than the "Oi Yank! Fac orrf you up-tight cnut and take the broom handle out yer arrse!" that you may be more used to.
Ah. Now I see what I'm doing wrong.
Bet hes glad he posted in here....feels like a wind up to be fair
 
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emptyeye said:
New_WO1 said:
We're all officers, even the junior warrants and we're entitled to a salute.

So you eat drink etc in the officers mess? and have officers married quarters? and who has signed your 'warrant'? what does it say on it? do you get one? and a commision at the same time?

My warrant is signed by the UK Defence Minister, and if you can speak Olde Englishe, you can have a look at it sometime. BUT, I wasnt a commsioned officer, I used to work for living!!!

*holding the rod high ready for the bites to come in*
This clarifies:

"Warrant officers are highly specialized, single-track specialty officers who receive their authority from the Secretary of the Army upon their initial appointment. However, Title 10 USC authorizes the commissioning of warrant officers (WO1) upon promotion to chief warrant officer (CW2). These commissioned warrant officers are direct representatives of the president of the United States. They derive their authority from the same source as commissioned officers but remain specialists, in contrast to commissioned officers, who are generalists. Warrant officers can and do command detachments, units, activities, and vessels as well as lead, coach, train, and counsel subordinates. As leaders and technical experts, they provide valuable skills, guidance, and expertise to commanders and organizations in their particular field."

"Any commissioned or warrant officer, as well as any commissioned officer of a friendly foreign country, is entitled to a salute."

So I'm a 'warranted officer not a 'warranted' NCO and next year I'll be commissioned as a Chief Warrant Officer 2.
 
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New_WO1 said:
Have any US warrants had any problems with the Brits concerning our rank? They don't understand we're officers.

Anyone else had the same problem?
New_WO1....

I think that you have answered your own question.

The Brits, when we are likely to serve alongside our Merkin cuzzins are taught "Basic Recognition". That goes for exchanges, operations or whatever. The UK rank structure is a little easier to understand. WO1 and below is an ENLISTED rank, therefore a salute is not desired. Infact, a young soldier who spots the RSM and throws one up, is normally given a short response of "Son, I work for a living" if he's lucky. Otherwise, depending on the WO1, he might need **** surgery.

Your username here indicates that this is a fairly new rank for yourself. Perhaps, if you were worthy of your rank, you would politely speak to the individual, of whatever rank, who fails to pay you the compliment, and explain the error of his/her ways. If there is a body of men/women marching and the squad commander fails to recognise your rank, then pick him up (not bodily of course) and correct him.

Your means of educating our troops is up to you. However, remember, a compliment is a compliment. If someone chooses not to salute you, it may be because of the way you spoke to them.

As a Brit, it is fair to say that the attitude of the British boys and girls who serve with you, is one of friendship. Respect that.

My rocket science degree is not transferrable.
 
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This thread sounds like a classic case of P.I.S.H.

Why is anyone bothering to respond to this c*nt.
 
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