Everest Climb by one of our own!

#2
Even though it is for a good cause, I disapprove of this sort of "been there, got the t-shirt" Everest summiting by novice-climbers who are dragged up by a team of sherpas. It devalues the achievement for committed climbers who have built up their experience by progressing through increasingly difficult climbs before taking on Everest with their own skills and ability.

Doing it their way is a bit like buying an Army flying badge on ebay and posing around with it.
 
#4
stab23 said:
Even though it is for a good cause, I disapprove of this sort of "been there, got the t-shirt" Everest summiting by novice-climbers who are dragged up by a team of sherpas. It devalues the achievement for committed climbers who have built up their experience by progressing through increasingly difficult climbs before taking on Everest with their own skills and ability.

Doing it their way is a bit like buying an Army flying badge on ebay and posing around with it.
Feel free to give it a whirl if its easy!
 
#5
stab23 said:
Even though it is for a good cause, I disapprove of this sort of "been there, got the t-shirt" Everest summiting by novice-climbers who are dragged up by a team of sherpas. It devalues the achievement for committed climbers who have built up their experience by progressing through increasingly difficult climbs before taking on Everest with their own skills and ability.

Doing it their way is a bit like buying an Army flying badge on ebay and posing around with it.
Well seen as the Major nearly lost his life in Iraq when he was shot in the arm and chest whilst piloting a helicopter, I for one think he deserves the right to try and wish him all the best
 
#6
I will be donating some of my easily earned shekels and wish them both the best of luck.
 
#7
stab23 said:
Even though it is for a good cause, I disapprove of this sort of "been there, got the t-shirt" Everest summiting by novice-climbers who are dragged up by a team of sherpas. It devalues the achievement for committed climbers who have built up their experience by progressing through increasingly difficult climbs before taking on Everest with their own skills and ability.

Doing it their way is a bit like buying an Army flying badge on ebay and posing around with it.
So what? I've been doing that for 20 years.

Echo CAARPs post, Keith got vittled up a few years back and Everest aint exactly a day trip up Snowdon. Have you climbed Everest?
 
#8
It's a special kind of snobbery when the 'elite' climb a remote mountain somewhere and then spend years complaining at how it should then be left alone and not climbed by others :?

Josh Lewseys blog makes for a good read, hope they both make it down OK, they reckon about 150 frozen bodies are still up there from the 300 or so who bought the farm whilst attempting it.

Tropper will be along any minute with some photos :D
 
#9
From the website: "This is a non-guided professionally led expedition for 'experienced mountaineers' who want to work as part of a team to tackle the original Mallory and Irvine route from the 'Rongbuk glacier'."

A lot more than I'd be prepared to tackle. I'm a "novice climber" who lived on Kilimanjaro for many years and never went beyond the hotel bar at Marangu. Many pillocks went upwards from there but Everest is a very different matter, I'm certain.
 
#11
Have you climbed Everest?
No, but I have climbed Denali, and did it properly. You won't know where Denali is obviously, but no doubt you will look it up in google and claim it is an easy mountain. But it isn't - if you had done any mountaineering you will know it is not.

By the way, just getting shot doesn't mean you have a life-long exemption from criticism.

Good luck to the Major, but my shilling will be going to other H4H causes - ones that involve more personal sacrifice and less personal glorification.
 

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#12
Ironicly, the person who has belittled this effort by gobbing off about "novices" and "ebay badges" hasn't actually joined the regular army.
 
#13
stab23 said:
Have you climbed Everest?
No, but I have climbed Denali, and did it properly. You won't know where Denali is obviously, but no doubt you will look it up in google and claim it is an easy mountain. But it isn't - if you had done any mountaineering you will know it is not.

By the way, just getting shot doesn't mean you have a life-long exemption from criticism.

Good luck to the Major, but my shilling will be going to other H4H causes - ones that involve more personal sacrifice and less personal glorification.
Just no would have done.

The rest is just a conversation with yourself as no-one gives a shit
 
#14
stab23 said:
Have you climbed Everest?
No, but I have climbed Denali, and did it properly. You won't know where Denali is obviously, but no doubt you will look it up in google and claim it is an easy mountain. But it isn't - if you had done any mountaineering you will know it is not.

By the way, just getting shot doesn't mean you have a life-long exemption from criticism.

Good luck to the Major, but my shilling will be going to other H4H causes - ones that involve more personal sacrifice and less personal glorification.
Denali isn't an easy climb, that doesn't mean you should belittle anyone that does an equally arduous climb, or are you just upset that someone is getting a bit of attention and you didn't when you climbed?

How much more sacrifice do you want from fundraisers?? And I personally think that few fundraisers do it for purely altruistic reasons so the personal gratification is there whatever the challenge.

You seem to be a rather bitter human.
 
#15
stab23 said:
No, but I have climbed Denali, and did it properly. You won't know where Denali is obviously, but no doubt you will look it up in google and claim it is an easy mountain. But it isn't - if you had done any mountaineering you will know it is not.

By the way, just getting shot doesn't mean you have a life-long exemption from criticism.

Good luck to the Major, but my shilling will be going to other H4H causes - ones that involve more personal sacrifice and less personal glorification.
No it doesn’t. If that criticism is justified and not just a surly green eyed rant :roll:

But neither does getting shot getting fit again, deploying to Afghanistan, and then putting yourself out to go and do something that will hopefully earn a bit of money for a worthy cause deserve such criticism.

If that means using a famous name to pull in the sheckles well then so be it
 
#16
stab23 said:
Even though it is for a good cause, I disapprove of this sort of "been there, got the t-shirt" Everest summiting by novice-climbers who are dragged up by a team of sherpas. It devalues the achievement for committed climbers who have built up their experience by progressing through increasingly difficult climbs before taking on Everest with their own skills and ability.

Doing it their way is a bit like buying an Army flying badge on ebay and posing around with it.

hang about, let's have it right......

This guy got brassed up while flying a wokka wokka out on ops. After his return and recovery, he drags his arrse up the highest mountain in the world in the hope of raising some cash for other wounded lads and lasses and you try to compare him to some "walt" who buys badges of ebay?

Yeah your right mate, he sounds like a right cnut! 8O
Theres just no pleasing some people is there?
 
#17
stab23 said:
Have you climbed Everest?
No, but I have climbed Denali, and did it properly. You won't know where Denali is obviously, but no doubt you will look it up in google and claim it is an easy mountain. But it isn't - if you had done any mountaineering you will know it is not.

By the way, just getting shot doesn't mean you have a life-long exemption from criticism.

Good luck to the Major, but my shilling will be going to other H4H causes - ones that involve more personal sacrifice and less personal glorification.
Nope, not climbed Denali cos I'm not and haven't claimed to be a mountaineer. I have no idea where it is either.

I've just been informed my girlfriends dad has climbed Denali/Mt McKinley. He said Mt McKinley was hard but there's no way he'd try Everest.

Have you been shot before?
 
#18
Interestingly, Mt McKinley presents very similar challenges to Everest: very arduous but not technically challenging, and success is almost totally dependant on weather conditions rather than mountaineering skill.

There's no doubt though that Everest is tougher. It does get sneered at by professional mountaineers due to the lack of technical challenge (K2 is much harder to climb) and the number of novices who have been dragged to the top by Sherpas, but it's still a considerable challenge. Good luck to the blokes.
 
#20
The-Lord-Flasheart said:
stab23 said:
Have you climbed Everest?
No, but I have climbed Denali, and did it properly. You won't know where Denali is obviously, but no doubt you will look it up in google and claim it is an easy mountain. But it isn't - if you had done any mountaineering you will know it is not.

By the way, just getting shot doesn't mean you have a life-long exemption from criticism.

Good luck to the Major, but my shilling will be going to other H4H causes - ones that involve more personal sacrifice and less personal glorification.
Nope, not climbed Denali cos I'm not and haven't claimed to be a mountaineer. I have no idea where it is either.

I've just been informed my girlfriends dad has climbed Denali/Mt McKinley. He said Mt McKinley was hard but there's no way he'd try Everest.

Have you been shot before?


No he hasn't Flash ...But if he'd just keep still for one second!!!!
 

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