ever wanted to requip your unit with 1958 webbing?

#2
Nope but i do like the idea of this 72 Pattern Webbing, Just a 58 in Nylon. The 58 is not bad but its one of them things im 'off n on' with. I do like the 44 Pattern though, Suppose some armies still using old 37s.

Who else uses the 58 Webbing?, Up to now, I have seen images of the Irish Defence Forces using 58's with 95ish combats.

Ireland do use some outdated stuff, Like the 25 Pndr Guns, Old 58 Webbing, .303 Brens.
 
#3
They also seem to do PLCE in US tri-desert colour.

So are they making the stuff or selling on?
 
#4
Ooh, sudden rush of nostalgia.

I'd forgotten the bits on the side of the ammo pouches (despite having about 3 sets of 58 up in the loft somewhere with my puttees and hairy shirts). The loops to hold the bayonet are obvious on the left pouch but can anyone remember the correct use for the little pouch on the side of the right ammo pouch?*

*Rolo storage is not the correct answer.
 
#6
Blyth_spirit said:
but can anyone remember the correct use for the little pouch on the side of the right ammo pouch?*

*Rolo storage is not the correct answer.
Energa, of course Or Puritabs in my case.
Webbing, puritabs, hairy shirts, DMS and puttees ready to go, if HM ever has need of my services :D :D :D
 
#7
I think it was actually for the BFA!
 
#8
Onetap said:
Blyth_spirit said:
but can anyone remember the correct use for the little pouch on the side of the right ammo pouch?*

*Rolo storage is not the correct answer.
Energa, of course Or Puritabs in my case.
Webbing, puritabs, hairy shirts, DMS and puttees ready to go, if HM ever has need of my services :D :D :D
Also very handy for putting either your KFS or mini Maglite in.
 
#9
Blyth_spirit said:
can anyone remember the correct use for the little pouch on the side of the right ammo pouch?
The pouch was for the fitment that allowed you to fire an Energa Grenade.

For an idea of the form of such a grenade we can look at the various designs of large caliber rifle grenade such as the Energa and Norinco Type-67. These are 70mm to 75mm in caliber and weigh between 1 ½ and 1 ¾ lbs. Fired by a rifle round they have a launch velocity of 42-62m/s, a direct fire range of up to 75m and a high trajectory range exceeding 250m. A skilled operator can probably drop a grenade onto the thinner top armour of a vehicle. Penetration for the South African copy of the Energa is given as 375mm of RHA, nearly 15". The Rhodesians often issued these to the point man of a patrol, giving him RPG level firepower during an encounter without the back-blast and added weight of a launcher. They also issued two types of ballistite cartridge, the weaker being used for close range hip or underarm firing.
Grenade Launchers

DoE senior used them back in the 60's. They had a hell of a kick even when fired with the butt on the ground.

DoE
 
#10
or pegs for the poncho

but don't forget how crap the 58 webbing was -

shrank when wet

weighed twice as much when wet

kidney pouches never stayed closed

ammo pouches too big

water bottle pouch too tight

bum role too awkward to do up

pick/shovel dug into your back on tabs if you had a GS bergan

Large pack not large at all - and a c~nt to put on!


The only good bit was the Rezzi case
 
#12
site was a link to vast range of chinese manfacturers /wholesalers no weapons but night vison armoured cars and body armour and company prepared to make stuff to your own spec.
gordons plans for new uniforms spring to mind :(
 
#13
Duke_of_Edinburgh said:
They had a hell of a kick even when fired with the butt on the ground.

DoE
There was a stand-up comedian who did a skit on the energa. ISTR a line about the hazards of firing it at short range — something about the stabilising fins "flying back and making chips of yer".
 
#14
"napsack"????

why have i got visions of a young lad on a station, whistling with a 58 pattern kidney pouch on a long stick on his shoulder!!
 
#15
BashaBasher said:
Nope but i do like the idea of this 72 Pattern Webbing, Just a 58 in Nylon. The 58 is not bad but its one of them things im 'off n on' with. I do like the 44 Pattern though, Suppose some armies still using old 37s.

Who else uses the 58 Webbing?, Up to now, I have seen images of the Irish Defence Forces using 58's with 95ish combats.

Ireland do use some outdated stuff, Like the 25 Pndr Guns, Old 58 Webbing, .303 Brens.
25 Pndrs used for ceremonials and by reserve artillery
.303 still in stores for reserves...as is 58 webbing :roll:

edit: C95 wet gear was on issue to regulars before Irish DPM wet gear arrived.
 

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