Euro Army

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  1. After the recent fall out with France and Germany over Iraq....and Britains even closer alignment with the USA....do you guys consider recent events will affect our general long term commitment to the development of the planned- and indeed already infant- 200,000 strong Euro Army (rapid reaction force)? Anyone here got their sky-blue beret yet?
    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/feb2003/mace-f01.shtml
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/eu/story/0,7369,400212,00.html
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/vote2001/hi/english/main_issues/sections/facts/newsid_1122000/1122259.stm
    http://www.janes.com/defence/news/jdw/jdw001122_01_n.shtml
     
  2. its going to be a one big fuk up

    i can see it now

    German charging forward in a blitzkrieg style attack, while the French starts surrendering at the first shot , the italian trying to make up their mind which side to be on, Belgian running around serving chocolates behind the line , the Dutch army can be heard a mile off due to the sound of wooden glogs , luxembourgh no significant numbers to speak of, Greeks to busy looking for turks to join the main attack, spain going forward in the direction of Gibraltar under the pretext of rear guard action!, Ireland men in masks planting Bombs under enemy cars, leaving the German isolated and they starts to build a wall around their gained territory...................................

    while we Brit will be laughing and reaping the spoils of enemy confusion :lol:
     
  3. Belgians, Dutchmen, Brits, Germans - doesn't that sound familiar in a sort of NATO way?
     
  4. its a frog conspiracy no less , they have always hated the English speaking worlds domination
     
  5. Organisation to be called I CAN'T BELIEVE ITS NOT NATO .A conspricy to build a nice headquarters with staff jobs for everyone who wants one .
    no new blokes on ground or gear but lots of new badges .
    Whats the bleeding point ?
     
  6. did'nt we do this before Dutch ,Germans ,Spaish ,portugese,lead by the Britsh V the french. :evil:
     
  7. so what if we ended up going to war with one of these nations. i know its a bloody long shot but you never know. after all according to the germans we were as much to blame for WWII as they were.

    simple as i say we just kick back and let the rest of the arrses get on with it. do a bit here and there. lets be more like canada and the swiss. eat loads of cheese, wear flashy expencive watches and do fcuk all.
     
  8. But we aint canada (who quite happy to send troops to afganistian only got uppity when snipers took great pride in killing people)
    Or switzeland dodgy choclate eating nazis.
    We owned half the planet and messed up the other half we like war
    only dont want to spend money on it or those who go too it .We never not
    wanted to get involed even if we did nt have a clue what we were gooing to do look at f.r.y. how many times has tony sent the troops in and he was in cnd :lol:
     
  9. But we aint canada (who quite happy to send troops to afganistian only got uppity when snipers took great pride in killing people)
    Or switzeland dodgy choclate eating nazis.
    We owned half the planet and messed up the other half we like war
    only dont want to spend money on it or those who go too it .We never not
    wanted to get involed even if we did nt have a clue what we were gooing to do look at f.r.y. how many times has tony sent the troops in and he was in cnd :lol:
    I say start a war with australi its warm they speak our language
    they have beer and if a bomb goes astray it will only hit a sheep
    a gap year backpacker or a minor member of royalty so no loss
     
  10. The whole Euro army thing is a relatively recent thing and will never happen with the UK there. For one thing Bliar is so pro-Euro and will want it, and does, that it would be a fck up if he's involved.

    It is a recipe for disater for a number of reasons. Firstly if the wanking frogs are involved, they won't play unless they're man is CinC, then ADC, then each regimental commander is French and so on down to the actual grunts. The french with thier ingrained arrogance will demand and demand, and try and use the force for it's own ends and to enhance its own power around the world.

    As for the rest, there's only the krauts worth associating with, unless the Norwegians decide to come onboard.

    It's all part of the political shyte that is the EU and will never work. Besides that, the Yanks won't have it and will get rid of NATO, and that threat will kill it anyways.
     
  11. Belgians, Dutchmen, Brits, Germans ............
    Might just work.
    It was such a motley collection that fecked Napoleon off. Wasnt it?
    Coalition works, but only when the objective is plain and clear and the leading nation has a military leader that even the enemy looks up to.

    Blondbint, our Tony is already trying to put distance between himself and monkey face. Did you see the way Bush handled his difficult few minutes the other day when faced with the current CIA scandal?
     
  12. I once attended a Euro Corps CPX as an observer. This august body, as some of you will know, started life as a Franco German love-in. Since then many of the remaining Quislings and collaborators who make up the rest of Europe have joined. The real laugh was that the HQ had a bi-lingual policy, French and German. Members were required to understand the other language but could speak their own. All docs were produced in two languages. I felt most sorry for the Spanish who were left dealing with four languages; Spanish between themselves, French and German with their colleagues and occasional English when required.

    Is this the Reverend Tony's vision for European Defence?

    I prefer a corporate model for the future of Europe:
    Germany - Engineering
    France - Catering
    Holland - Porn
    UK - Defence (funded by the others of course).
     
  13. No matter what happens I'm sure that someone somewhere will try to divert the funding gravy train to suit themselves. If its as corrupt and bureaucratic as the remainder of the EU organisation then it will collapse under its own weight.

    But I do agree with the basic premise that the whole thing is a French vanity project.
     
  14. There has in the past been an effective model of Euro co-operation. The old Anglo-Dutch Commando thingemy.

    I seem to recall it worked.

    Dutch are better edumacated than your average, but everyone else speaks english these days anyway.
     
  15. That will be exactly one of the main problems, in that the French will demand that French is the language to be used. Look at the Eurovision song contest? The only member of the panel to give their votes in any language other than English was...the French.

    If the French are involved we should boycott it..bloody hell, didn't know I had it in me to be so diplomatic when referring to that bunch of cnuts :lol: