EU to operate own drones

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#1
It seems the EU wants to operate its own drones as part of a nascent EU armed force set up.

EU planning to 'own and operate’ spy drones and an air force – Telegraph Blogs

The European Union is planning to “own and operate” spy drones, surveillance satellites and aircraft as part of a new intelligence and security agency under the control of Baroness Ashton. The controversial proposals are a major move towards creating an independent EU military body with its own equipment and operations, and will be strongly opposed by Britain.

Officials told the Daily Telegraph that the European Commission and Lady Ashton’s European External Action Service want to create military command and communication systems to be used by the EU for internal security and defence purposes. Under the proposals, purchasing plans will be drawn up by autumn.

The use of the new spy drones and satellites for “internal and external security policies”, which will include police intelligence, the internet, protection of external borders and maritime surveillance, will raise concerns that the EU is creating its own version of the US National Security Agency.
Wonderful - yet another move towards the United States of Europe. Roll onn a referendum so we actually get a change to vote on whether we approve of this empire building or not.

Wordsmith
 
#2
Only in the EU would we see an armed force set up by an ex vice chair of CND..

You could not make this stuff up!
 
#3
I doubt they'll be any use. If Europes involved in this then they'll be so many committees involved to ensure that everybody is happy they'll never get used.

Incidentally, what's the legality of a non nation state collecting Int? It comes across as all very SPECTRE & THRUSH.

But echoing your sentiments, roll on the referendum. If they're up to shit like this with out democratic accountability even the Guardian readers and Lib Dems should be in uproar over it. (But they won't be)

Have we had any movement on their desire to be on the UN Security Council yet?
 
#4
“The Edward Snowden scandal shows us that Europe needs its own autonomous security capabilities, this proposal is one step further towards European defence integration,” said a senior EU official.

Meanwhile, across the Pond in Ft Meade, they are laughing their socks off.
 
#5
“The Edward Snowden scandal shows us that Europe needs its own autonomous security capabilities, this proposal is one step further towards European defence integration,” said a senior EU official.

Meanwhile, across the Pond in Ft Meade, they are laughing their socks off.

Who's exactly going to be paying for this?
 
#7
Who's exactly going to be paying for this?
Doesn't matter, the NSA must be rolling on the floor in hysterics at the idea that Baroness Ashton and her band of village idiots think they can just buy some drones and satellites and spy on the Yanks.

Its the evesdropping equivalent of the local mong in his Corsa getting jealous of the guy with a garage full of Ferrari F50's and going down to Halfrauds to buy some Fast Car gear to show him up.

And then of course, there is the little problem of things like RAF Menwith Hill, the biggest? NSA listening post outside the USA.
Ashton and co need to get over themselves, they don't speak English so will always be the window lickers with their faces stuck to the Five Eyes window wondering what we're up to.
 
#8
I recall posting up the initial EU plan for border security during the headless chicken panic about Club Med being flooded with orc like hordes out of Libya. Drones where a prominent part of it.

Given the UK's obsession with surveilling it's population I'm sure we are well ahead of Baroness Ashton and the demon spawn of Brussels in these things. Indeed it's exactly the sort of thing the Brits might be a key instigator of.
 
#9
Considering the Germans could not get clearance to fly Eurohawk within the EU, what chance do they have and whose going to build the UAVs or are they going to buy them off General Atomics.
 
#11
It seems the EU wants to operate its own drones as part of a nascent EU armed force set up.

EU planning to 'own and operate’ spy drones and an air force – Telegraph Blogs

Wonderful - yet another move towards the United States of Europe. Roll onn a referendum so we actually get a change to vote on whether we approve of this empire building or not.

Wordsmith
What are you so concerned about?

It's just more lazy and disingenuous journalism stoking up outrage based upon nonsense. Seems it worked with you!

From the beginning, paras 1 and 2:
The European Union is planning to “own and operate” spy drones, surveillance satellites and aircraft as part of a new intelligence and security agency under the control of Baroness Ashton.

The controversial proposals are a major move towards creating an independent EU military body with its own equipment and operations, and will be strongly opposed by Britain.
So is it a new "intelligence and security agency" or "an independent EU military body". Fukking make your mind up Bruno!

By para 3, he seems to have made up his mind:
Officials told the Daily Telegraph that the European Commission and Lady Ashton’s European External Action Service want to create military command and communication systems to be used by the EU for internal security and defence purposes. Under the proposals, purchasing plans will be drawn up by autumn.
But what's "new" about this? Why do you have to "create" something that already exists?

After 6 (or is it 10) years in Brussels reporting on EU affairs, you'd have thought dear Bruno would have heard of the EUMS (EU Military Staff) by now!

Bruno Waterfield has been the Brussels correspondent for the Telegraph since 2007. He has been reporting on politics and European affairs for over 13 years, first from Westminster and then from Brussels since January 2003.
Still, good on the Telegraph to expose the deluded, the ignorant and the desperate-to-be-outraged rabble once again. :)
 
#14
Seems a logical step considering EU Battlegroups have been kicking about for a few years

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU_Battlegroup

And after having worked with many of those European Nations, I'm going to have to say thanks, but no thanks.

I'm still convinced that the reason why the EU didn't put a battlegrop into Libya was because it would've been the Balkan Battlegroups turn.

On a more serious note. As I don't recognise the EU as a legal entity, can I be forced to serve in a European Battlegroup?
 
#15
It seems the EU wants to operate its own drones as part of a nascent EU armed force set up.

EU planning to 'own and operate’ spy drones and an air force – Telegraph Blogs



Wonderful - yet another move towards the United States of Europe. Roll onn a referendum so we actually get a change to vote on whether we approve of this empire building or not.

Wordsmith
Hmm.. under the control of Baroness Ashton, is she trying to take over the whole of the EU's establishment bit by bit. She is already in charge of foreign & diplomatic affairs, trying to set up EU embassies everywhere at huge expense, even though they would be totally redundant. If you google the creature, "warning shockingly hideous photos will be revealed", you can see she is not only earning a small fortune similar to that of the president of the USA but claiming huge expenses such as the £180,000 armoured limo bought earlier this year. The sooner we get out of this profligate lunatic asylum the better!
 
#16
On a more serious note. As I don't recognise the EU as a legal entity, can I be forced to serve in a European Battlegroup?
Yes. So better get over it before you do yourself some harm.
 
#17
Hmm.. under the control of Baroness Ashton, is she trying to take over the whole of the EU's establishment bit by bit. She is already in charge of foreign & diplomatic affairs, trying to set up EU embassies everywhere at huge expense, even though they would be totally redundant.
Mendacious as Wordsmith it seems...

Never let the truth get in the way of a good anti-EU wibble.
 
#18
Hmm.. under the control of Baroness Ashton, is she trying to take over the whole of the EU's establishment bit by bit. She is already in charge of foreign & diplomatic affairs, trying to set up EU embassies everywhere at huge expense, even though they would be totally redundant. If you google the creature, "warning shockingly hideous photos will be revealed", you can see she is not only earning a small fortune similar to that of the president of the USA but claiming huge expenses such as the £180,000 armoured limo bought earlier this year. The sooner we get out of this profligate lunatic asylum the better!
But that's not what the Guardian is telling me. The Guardian is telling me that unless you are pro Europe then you're a nazi and agree with the holocaust.

However to echo your sentiments. This EU monster needs taming. And Taming quickly.
 
#19
But that's not what the Guardian is telling me. The Guardian is telling me that unless you are pro Europe then you're a nazi and agree with the holocaust.

However to echo your sentiments. This EU monster needs taming. And Taming quickly.
Nothing stopping you taking up arms and going to war against the EU yourself. You do consider it an illegal organisation, don't you? So why not set an example and lead the charge.

Jog on..

Or are you one of those who thinks wars are where others are expected to fight, spill blood and die for your cause?
 
#20
Mendacious as Wordsmith it seems...

Never let the truth get in the way of a good anti-EU wibble.
Says the sites Labour party/EU apologist sock puppet :-( Have you actually bothered to read & not just in the Mail but other papers, say about this self serving, ugly, spendthrift?
 

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