EU removes Greeces vote

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  1. Our new EU utopia has removed the right to vote from Greece reducing it to a vassal state. The Greeks now have no democratic representation in the EU.

    Ok it's one meeting but there is a school of thought that it should be permanent.

  2. Alsacien

    Alsacien LE Moderator

    You should get a job at the Daily Mail.

    Voting rights at one meeting suspended is a political tap on the wrist which is interesting to see - pride is a powerful force even for a bone idle nation like Greece....
    The Lisbon treaty allows Greece to leave the Eurozone (but not to be kicked out), even more interesting is that they could leave but still continue to use the Euro.
    EU getting militant and stroppy with countries taking the pish - whoda thunk it? :D

    I'm expecting Greece to get a severe grip now - roll out Papademos...?
  3. Trans-sane

    Trans-sane LE Book Reviewer

    It may only be a single vote. But it sets a precedent. And who says it can't be extended any time France/Germany need to bully a smaller state? If handled badly this has the potential to break the EU... And let us not forget that the UK economy is nearly as shakey as any of the PIGS. Hell our deficit is only a little less than Greece. And that is before the PFIs (which are of course off book) are considered...

    We live in interesting times me thinks...
  4. Errrrm!

    Last I heard, UK was still outside the Euro and using something called the pound.

    Still, I guess that little fact can be overlooked when on a wee wibble mission.
  5. Maybe the Greeks will consider binning their daily siesta and actually do some work to help reduce their deficit
  6. Alsacien

    Alsacien LE Moderator

    Unlikely - more likely to devote more working time to figuring out ways to avoid paying tax.

    I have no problem with avoiding tax if you can legally, but the pertinent word here is legally....
  7. Trans-sane

    Trans-sane LE Book Reviewer

    Ever heard of mission creep? It seems to have happened rather a lot in a sandy place called Afghanistan. And indeed it happened when the EEC became the EU and then launched a (failed) constitution (that was quietly reserected as the Lisbon Treaty). Mission creep is endemic to almost any institution that employs bureaucrats. What starts today as withholding the vote from a member state for one meeting could of course escalate (example of similar. The Parliment Act that allows the government to force through legislation. Been used 7 times since 1911 when it was instituted. It has however been used 3 times since 1999...)
  8. Germany et al are only concerned for the credibility of the EURO in so far as it effects their own economies. Frankly, they couldn't care too hoots for the Greek economy per se.

    In a rash moment of honesty, they are more likely to vote to see the Pound fail than try to prop it up. And that's the problem that the UK faces - not Brussels riding in to take charge!
  9. Alsacien

    Alsacien LE Moderator

    Warrington both North and South voted in female Labour MP's called Helen - at which point the opinion of anyone who openly associates themself with Warrington (vis-a-vis your avatar), becomes completely null and void in any sensible discussion about politics.
  10. On the otherhand, the public demonstrations against any austerity measures, and the inclination to strike in an attempt to keep their cosy number on track seems to be having a negative effect on other EU members considering assistance.

    It never ceases to amaze me the extent to which socialist leaning populations and states can delude themselves into thinking that the 'good' times will go on forever and their 'right' to public handouts.
  11. Trans-sane

    Trans-sane LE Book Reviewer

    I cannot be held responsible for the cattle that would vote for Hitler if he was wearing a red rosette. I have never voted Labour in my life. Not just because I disagree with the agenda of equallity through mediocrity but because labour candidates up here have been pretty damn terrible...
  12. What does a Greek urn?
  13. And 'yes' they have lost their marbles.

  14. 275 drachma per week