equal oppertunities in the ACF

#1
recently someone told me that due to a new equal oppertunities act the ACF can no longer demand males to have thier hair cut and that coercing them into doing so by threat of demotion/booting out whould be considered as unjust.

is this true or are they talking crap?

(ps: not a WAH!)
 
#2
First I have heard of this, but at the end of the day if an AI doesn't want to get their hair cut maybe they should consider the type of organization they want to be a part of.

We are here to set an example and in this case the example involves a certain degree of military bearing, so if AI's want to grow their hair fine, just do it in the Scout's, they are, after all, as desperate for quality adults as we are.

I did go on ITC with a chap that refused to remove an eyebrow stud he was quietly told that maybe the ACF wasn't the organization for him.

And before any body says it no we should not compromise standards for "quality adults" it's the rules learn to play the game by them.
 
#3
thats the prob mate. i love cadets but it having my hair short for something that is once weekly means im stuck with it. and it doesnt suit my style of life and clothing.
 
#4
For fucks sake.

Its not equal opporitunities is it? If you want to join a military organisation, then act like some form of soldier.

Long hair on blokes doens't look smart. It makes you look like an emo cunt with scars on their arms.
 
#5
tut tut

now come on praetorian, tell us what you really think. I don't like this pussyfooting around at all
 
#6
Lance_Bombardier said:
thats the prob mate. i love cadets but it having my hair short for something that is once weekly means im stuck with it. and it doesnt suit my style of life and clothing.

priceless
 
#7
Be fair though...

Equal opporitunities is a stupid idea, but the idea behind it is that people of different cultures can live together in peace :pukel: :pukel: :pukel:

It isn't so that cunts can be different to everyone else.

Whats next?

"I don't want to do PT Sir, because its my life choice to be a fat cunt, eat pies, and do no phys."

Get your hair cut or don't let the door hit you on your way out.
 
#8
Praetorian said:
For fucks sake.

Its not equal opporitunities is it? If you want to join a military organisation, then act like some form of soldier.

Long hair on blokes doens't look smart. It makes you look like an emo cunt with scars on their arms.
keep up dude, not emo.

Gothic
 
#9
I think you may have bitten a weeeee bit much there fella.

Yes I agree that Equal Oppertunities, like H and S, has gone a bit mad, but the idea behind it is sound enough. Why should people be discriminatged against purley because of their sex or skin colour? If they prove that they are completely incompitent of their own accord then thats fair enough, but why, for example, should women get paid a set amount less than blokes just because they have tits? Now yes, im sure someone will take the piss out of this post for being all liberal and nicey nicey, but i challenge you to give a reasoned argument as to why Equal Oppertunities shouldnt be applied.

CG - awaiting incomming.
 
#10
plus its a military based and themed organisation.
not actual military.
 
#11
Praetorian said:
For fucks sake.

Its not equal opporitunities is it? If you want to join a military organisation, then act like some form of soldier.

Long hair on blokes doens't look smart. It makes you look like an emo cunt with scars on their arms.
Seconded. Get your hair cut, you dong.

On a related matter, can we coerce male cadets to get hair cuts? I'm quite happy for my male cadets to have long hair, provided they wear it in a bun like the girls :twisted:
 
#12
well, if women are allowed to tie their hair up..................................

slippery slope...........................
 
#13
Lance_Bombardier said:
Praetorian said:
For fucks sake.

Its not equal opporitunities is it? If you want to join a military organisation, then act like some form of soldier.

Long hair on blokes doens't look smart. It makes you look like an emo cunt with scars on their arms.
keep up dude, not emo.

Gothic
Whats the difference? Im willing to bet that you arn't 100% in your gothic convictions if you listen to shite like MCR.
 
#14
Cider_Glider said:
I think you may have bitten a weeeee bit much there fella.

Yes I agree that Equal Oppertunities, like H and S, has gone a bit mad, but the idea behind it is sound enough. Why should people be discriminatged against purley because of their sex or skin colour? If they prove that they are completely incompitent of their own accord then thats fair enough, but why, for example, should women get paid a set amount less than blokes just because they have tits? Now yes, im sure someone will take the urine out of this post for being all liberal and nicey nicey, but i challenge you to give a reasoned argument as to why Equal Oppertunities shouldnt be applied.

CG - awaiting incomming.
I agree Cider, but EO doesn't apply to people wearing their hair long when not allowed.
 
#15
It's violating his right to have an opportunity to be a slack cnut and set a poor example to the younger cadets.

If you want to wear a military style beret, get a haircut.
 
#16
I too agree that members of the ACF should be smartly turned out and take a pride in their appearance. Being a military sponsored organisation i feel that certain regulations should be followed, miliraty courtessies ie saluting and uniformity for example.

But i think you'll agree prae, the world is getting stupid, the Lefties are getting their way more and more, no one can be competitive in schools as its not fair to allow someone to loose, as they feel bad. That i do dissagree with.

Sorry, got into a bit of a rant there! soap box returned to stores!

CG
 
#17
the act apparently states though prae, that it doesnt apply to ACTUAL military services. but applies to organisations such as cadets.

so people as beautiful and vain like me dont have to change our appearence to suit others
 
#18
i was at our remembrance parade last november and the local ACF were on parade. we were doing the quarter guard at the cenotaph and the state of some of the cadets was laughable. one had longer hair than ozzy ffs. heard through the grapevine that they were told if they ever turned up on parade in that state again they would be reomved from the acf.that came from the cadets commander who i think must have overheard some of the comments being passed by some of us.

as for gothic, i love gothic music but would never consider dressing like them. MCR must be the worst band at the mo
 
#19
Lance_Bombardier said:
the act apparently states though prae, that it doesnt apply to ACTUAL military services. but applies to organisations such as cadets.

so people as beautiful and vain like me dont have to change our appearence to suit others
Excuse me for being picky, but surely wearing a uniform means that you "have to change your appearence (sic) to suit others"? Unless, of course, your unit allows you to parade in Goth-influenced clothes?

To me it's a simple decision: I joined the ACF when I was a teenager because I wanted to join a youth organisation which was based upon the Army. It was obvious to a blind man that such things as uniform, high standard of turn-out and discipline were going to be there in spades and that if I didn't like the rules and regs I would have to opt out.

There are no dress rules for Goths as far as I'm aware (and I went to college with an awful lot of them). Some wore long hair, others had fully shaven heads and one of those was a fellow cadet - he just restrained himself from applying eyeliner on a drill-night, same as I did!
 
#20
Lance_Bombardier said:
the act apparently states though prae, that it doesnt apply to ACTUAL military services. but applies to organisations such as cadets.

so people as beautiful and vain like me dont have to change our appearence to suit others
Its not changing your appearance to suit others. Its conforming to an organisation that you have joined.

If I may quote from the ACF manual:

Hair:Not protruding over the collar nor hiding the ears. Sideburns not below the bottom of the ears.
Thats the ACF's viewpoint on it. If you don't like it, then hand you kit in. As an aside, if I saw cadets looking like a sack of shite with long hair ona remembrance parade, i'd have a word with their AI's and write some stern letters to the CTT and Commandant concerned with them.
 
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