Entry to RMAS - Sep or Jan?

#1
Just a quick one,

Have secured a place at Sandhurst, was looking to start this September but have been offered a short term job sailing in the Caribbean, August to October. Very tempted to take it, only slight issue I have is that I'm 23 now, due to be 24 in October.

Will starting RMAS at 24 be to my detriment, or should I go for it? Your experiences/opinions would be most helpful.

Thanks guys
 
#2
Go sailing, RMAS will wait. being 24 wont matter at all unless you want to go infantry in which case it wont matter enough to worry about.
 
#6
RustyH said:
Go sailing, RMAS will wait. being 24 wont matter at all unless you want to go infantry in which case it wont matter enough to worry about.
Hi,
could you elaborate a bit on this please?

I really want to make it as an Infantry Officer, I have had a look into all the other corps and I have to be honest none of them really appeal to me as much as the infantry. I'm 27 and I'm so worried my age will stop me from getting where I want to be.
 

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#7
Check with RMAS. Under the latest iteration of Sandhurst entry (I'm not sure if it's in place yet), you will be contractually bound to enter RMAS on the date you say you are going to, and the offer of a place may be withdrawn if you don't.
 
#8
Hi Xoums,

You'll come across this issue if you pursue a career in the Infantry. I believe the general feeling is that Infantry regiments would rather have candidates under 25. That's not to say they do not commission older chaps, far from it but you have consider that when faced with a pair of otherwise identical Ocdts, one of whom is 27+ the other 23, a Regimental Selection Board would probably go for the younger one. At least that how it was put to me in one interview.

I'm in the AOSB process waiting to sit my main board and like you am 27. My initial ambitions were solely Infantry regiments however having been on a few FAM visits my horizons have been broadened somewhat. I'm still greatly interested in the Infantry and will continue to pursue it until told to piss off. I've been offered sponsorship by 2 Infantry Regts both of whom have been very positive about me but have urged caution that my age may not be all that helpful.

Perhaps someone better qualified can shed some more light on these issue but i'm pretty sure there are other threads on the subject - Have a search for 'comissioning at 26+ shows a lack of commitment' or words to that effect, there was quite a lengthy discussion on the subject if I recall.
 
#9
cpunk said:
Check with RMAS. Under the latest iteration of Sandhurst entry (I'm not sure if it's in place yet), you will be contractually bound to enter RMAS on the date you say you are going to, and the offer of a place may be withdrawn if you don't.

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#10
Xoums - I think the logic is that most infantry privates will be 17-18, and they think younger officers would be able to lead/relate to them far better. That's what I heard when I spoke to RAnglian.
 
#11
Exwing said:
Xoums - I think the logic is that most infantry privates will be 17-18, and they think younger officers would be able to lead/relate to them far better. That's what I heard when I spoke to RAnglian.
yes that's what I was told. It is also a matter of harmony within the officers mess amongst the junior officers, the younger officers might resent the older officers( of the same rank) because of their maturity ect...And vice versa.

However I was also told that the age of regular recruits seems to have increased a little somewhat and that some Infantry regiments were more accepting than others to take on older junior officers. I was specifically told of the case of a 28 year old receiving a commission with the Paras.

Either way I'm determined and committed to make it in the Infantry and I shall do all I can to prove that I am worthy and fit enough even if it means pushing myself harder than ever.
 
#12
Exwing said:
Xoums - I think the logic is that most infantry privates will be 17-18, and they think younger officers would be able to lead/relate to them far better. That's what I heard when I spoke to RAnglian.
I would hope anyway as long as you are a good bloke the age thing would only be a initial hurdle when you are a new subbie.

I speak only as a outsider who was offered sponsorship by the RAnglian at 25 and now with a TA unit based out the regiment (as a private for the time being).
 
#14
January intake much better, feels like a real year and you get inters in the summer (most free time). Less thrusters as well.

GDSB - they're much better than a January Worst Encounter and February Druids!
 
#16
To the OP I would go sailing. Things like that always stand you in good stead and Sandhurst will nearly always wait. In terms of age I would not get too worked up about it. It's very much personality driven. I was thirty when I commissioned just about and got offered a place by my infantry choice of arm. I was not that unusual either. Go, work hard and let the chips fall as they may. I wouldn't worry too much about not being able to get on with 18 year old recruits. You are not supposed to be their mate and I always think that they appreciate some perspective given by age. Similarly don't worry about the mess. Unless you are such a tool that as a 27/28/29 year old you cannot get on with men of 23/22 then it shouldn't be a problem. The mess requires you to get on with people of all different ages and backgrounds from the colonel, to the ex RSM LE QM to non grad 2Lts.

The main issue with age and the infantry is going to be promotion. A 29 year old platoon commander is not a massive issue. However a 40 year old OC might start to be one. Many of the other OC will be in their early thirties , and fitness etc will start to become an issue for you. It's also going to have a knock on effect after that. It was put to me that I would be unlikely to command an infantry regiment. Obviously a long way off at this stage for the more ambitious amongst you it's worth thinking about.
 
#17
It's swings and rondabouts though lads. I have Op Self Reliance and Longreach in May/June which is pretty damn fun, but then First Encounter in November which doesn't sound that great.

I just pity CC101, that must have been hell doing wet-dry drills in -15 temps!
 
#19
Whichever entry gets your Sovereign's Parade & Comissioning Ball in nice weather ;)
 
#20
Shifty17 said:
Exwing said:
I just pity CC101, that must have been hell doing wet-dry drills in -15 temps!
I was thinking that. Driving blizzards and knee-deep snow must've added a new dimension to Ex Long Reach!
As GDSB mentioned it got cut short this year due to the appalling conditions.

One question I have is that, being a bursar, am I obliged to enter in sep 2011? Or could I push it back to jan If I contacted RMAS early enough? Knowing a little about what RMAS is like makes me want to extend the summer 2011 for as long as possible.
 

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