Entitlement to Army Quarters - A Lil Confused???

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Hi there all, hope this is the right forum.
I was just wondering what requirements you have to meet nowadays on being entitled to Army Living Quarters - i know before you had to be 'married'
Ive heard now if you have a dependant that you are entitled is this right?

My partner is currently doing his Phase 1 training, we have a little boy (1 years old) but we are not married so does that make us entitled upon him completing training?

Thanks in advance :)

Kim
 
#4
Just to add confusion. If your partner had residency of your child he would be entitled to ask for a quarter, however if you weren't married you couldn't live there.
 
#6
Depends what camp you go to, on our camp we have surplus housing so DE are more than happy for couples to move in, and singles can even move in. It stops the houses slowly rotting from the inside out and works out cheaper for the MOD in the long run. I suggest you find out where your partner is getting posted and simple ring the HIVE there and ask. You might get lucky ;)
 
#8
Why has he been told different by recruiters etc? They said as he had a dependant we should be entitled? Who do i contact to find all the ins and outs of this? Thanks
As he has a dependent he will be able to ask for a surplus quarter to allow for visitation with his child, not you. As there aren't enough quarters he won't get a surplus quarter.

He could have full residency and live as a single parent in a quarter. However you will not be able to live there.

Or you could get married and be entitled to a quarter.
 
#9
Not strictly true, I can think of 2 single soldiers with full custody of children that are living in SFA.
One is there 'illegally'. End of.

If you have a dependant (ie a child or two) you can request a quarter (but I think you have to have at least 50% custody). Your partner can't live there permenantly.

PP you wont get a quarter without a marriage. The instructors/recruiters wont have lied to him, he may have not fully understood the complicated rules. Bottom line is you will need a marriage to get a quarter together. You could have a cheapo register office do, then have a big bang in a church later when yu have the cash and time to plan.
 
#11
The whole "You have to be married" malarky is very thin these days. Honestly, just wait till he gets his posting and then ring the local HIVE, they can tell you more :)
 
#13
Im really getting confused :(
The rules for "entitlement" to Soldiers Families Accommodation are:

1. Married and accompanied by family in present posting.

2. Single parent with full legal custody of child/ren (that rubbish about having "residence" above is confusing).

3. Couples in a formal Civil Partnership.

4. Single soldiers, separating families and other randoms can request Surplus SFA BUT these MAY only be allocated on an as available basis and as such there is NO ENTITLEMENT. Also if the particular garrison requires SFA to allocate to higher priority(see 1. 2. and 3. above) then it's the randoms in 4. that can have there SFA withdrawn.

The bottom line is that as a non-married/uncommitted partner, you are entitled to some of the pension (under the new scheme) but you ain't entitled to housing.

The Armed Services are just that, not a Social Housing outlet of the Government.

Hope that helps.
 
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Why not? I read in the soldier magazine a couple of months back about a same sex couple, not married, who moved into a pad? Ive seen, and know, many single mothers out of phase 2 who are given a pad? So why not? If the garrison has surplus quaters, then why not let the singles move out their firetraps and move into a pad?
 
#15
as blunts said ximmeh

1 couples in a civil partnership
2 single parents with full legal custody

2 very different scenarios than an unmarried squaddie with a girlfriend and a baby
 
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Why not? I read in the soldier magazine a couple of months back about a same sex couple, not married, who moved into a pad? Ive seen, and know, many single mothers out of phase 2 who are given a pad? So why not? If the garrison has surplus quaters, then why not let the singles move out their firetraps and move into a pad?
The same sex couple were in a civil partnership.
Young soldiers moving in and out of quarters when it suits them isnt the best way to run a regiment. They will also moan like **** once they have kitted out their pad and are then told to give it up because a fmaily needs it so have to move everything from a sofa to bed back into the block.
 
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Why not? I read in the soldier magazine a couple of months back about a same sex couple, not married, who moved into a pad? Ive seen, and know, many single mothers out of phase 2 who are given a pad? So why not? If the garrison has surplus quaters, then why not let the singles move out their firetraps and move into a pad?
Single mothers have full custody of their dependants, ergo are given a surplus quarter...if he wants a pad as a singly then they may CONSIDER it because he has a child, but his GIRLFRIEND will not be allowed to live in the quarter with him. The only way is to get married.

By the way, the same sex unmarried couple may have given a date of their civil partnership and the quarter may have been allocated early because the date was imminent.

I doubt a newly passed out soldier joining his unit will be given a surplus quarter for he and his girlfriend to live in, special treatment? What about all the other soldiers requesting the same when they find out about it? Ain't gonna happen. Get wed and get the MQ, simple.
 
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Why not? I read in the soldier magazine a couple of months back about a same sex couple, not married, who moved into a pad? Ive seen, and know, many single mothers out of phase 2 who are given a pad? So why not? If the garrison has surplus quaters, then why not let the singles move out their firetraps and move into a pad?
First bold. How many? And see my para 4 above.

Second bold. Good luck getting the Joint Service Publication 464 and Tri Service Accommodation Regulations re-written, are you on the committee, then?

If you want housing off the Services make a commitment to each other. If not, speak to your local council.
 
#19
PP - you're not 'entitled' to SFA. Some people might know someone who knows someone who got a buckshee quarter but whether that's true or not is neither here nor there. They're not entitled either. If you were lucky enough to get yourself housed at one posting, you can pretty much guarantee that you wouldn't be at the next.

Make a commitment to your bloke by marrying him and the Army will make a commitment to you. Or maybe not. Who knows what's for the chop next on the SDSR merry-go-round!
 
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Why not? I read in the soldier magazine a couple of months back about a same sex couple, not married, who moved into a pad? Ive seen, and know, many single mothers out of phase 2 who are given a pad? So why not? If the garrison has surplus quaters, then why not let the singles move out their firetraps and move into a pad?
The same sex couple were most likely in a civil partnership as they cannot get married.

SFA entitlement is:
Service personnel aged 18 and over, who are married, in a civil partnership or who have permanent custody of children and have at least six months to serve are entitled to apply for SFA.
There are also other circumstances such as specific appointmants that may be entitled even if they do not meet the above criteria.

SFA may also be misapproprated as mess or barrack accommodation if there are shortages. This can mean a single gets their own house, but should not mean each overflow single gets their own house - the theory being that they share.

If the barracks are fire traps then the firetraps need to be sorted - and it does not mean the SFA are to a better standard.

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