Enhanced blast

#1
Hi all,
Just a query from a journalist - Channel 4 News again, Nick Paton Walsh - asking if anyone recently deployed to Afghanistan knows if UK forces (or NATO forces under UK command) are using enhanced blast devices? AT4s, probably, shoulder launched. Or perhaps new warheads on hellfire missiles on Apaches?
Any info much appreciated... Nick dot walsh at itn dot co dot uk
 
#2
Nick

Given that such information is very likely to involve operational security it's one you should be directing at the MoD.

You may have seen the large and unweildly thread on the new DIN dealing with the Forces communicating defence information to the media.

I refer you to it for further guidance.
 
#3
Search for AT4 on the wiki, and I'm sure you'll find out which nations use them.
 
#4
thanks. but what I want to hear is from someone who's seen new AT4 enhanched blast in the field since 06... questions, questions, but the MoD says it's not happening...
 
#6
Nick,

Firstly: full marks for coming clean, admitting who you are and asking a direct (and specific) question.
Secondly: "nul points" for expecting any sensible or authoritative answer on what is clearly an operational matter.
 
#12
walsh said:
do I see you exercising self-censorship?
no other way of asking that question mate.
Aren't you the slippery one Nick?

'Speak to MoD' is the answer you will get time and time again.
 
#13
Nick,

This really is an OPSEC issue, as it relates to Defence and equipment or will almost certainly be judged as one since the new DIN.

The guys simply cannot answer such a question. You really will have to go back the the MoD cell that deals with such enquiries.

Or spend the afternoon on YouWeeChoob.com

You may be better off asking the Dutch Ministry of Defence this question?
 
#14
Indeed. The Dutch would probably answer it.
You can't have it both ways: the same transparency that relates to PTSD rates etc should apply to things like this. We're not military, so their restrictions are there for us to run in to, rather than delicately adhere to.
And even I know what a Choob is.
 
#15
Nick

Surely someone like you, a journalist for a proper grown-up news programme, should realise that even if such things were already posted in the public domain, the folk here who might know the answers are subject to some swingeing penalties if they talk about it to you.


To conflate this question with one about PTSD is slightly unfair. PTSD rates are not the really same class of information as questions about the tactics and weapons possibly being used in combat operations against an enemy.


If you ask me to explain why, I don't think I can do it succinctly, but I know, as do most here I suspect, that one is probably open for debate and the other is something we would tend to keep quiet about until the news is officially released "after the battle".


You'll recall the hoary old tales of the OPSEC breaches by the press in the Falklands. Whether they are, or are not true, is almost irrelevant. They are a condign example of the old phrase "loose lips sink ships".
 
#16
If your reporting on military operations full time, then do yourself a favor and get a subscription to Janes or some other defense industry source rather than asking what may be OPSEC questions of the kids still in service on here and potentially getting them in trouble.
 
#17
Nick, C4 News is good program, but given the sensitivities of the DIN and OPSEC and the need continued sp for Ops in AFG....don't be offended when you are hit with a wall of silence.

As an aside, I know that Jon Snow has particular concerns about being linked to charities...perhaps the next time he sells his ties for charity, one could accidently go missing and find its way into our charity auction...... as a way of acknowledging indirect and dircet 'support' that you as an organisation garner from ARRSE.

You've spent enough around serviceman to know how to 'liberate' such an item!
 
#18
You're right in what you say, but my point was that our job is to ask the questions, whatever the answers entail, and yours is to not reply to the ones that you shouldn't answer.
And here I go getting into a debate about transparency...
Hope you're well.
 
#19
Nick why don't you run a story about the good that servicemen and wimmin are doing rather than what will no doubt be something based on half truth and conjecture. Why do you need to know about these weapon systems. Why don't you want to report on the difference that our servicemen are making in the Stan or Iraq. I admire your 'honesty' in outing yourself as a journalist, but did you seriously expect to get 'the' answer you were after.

A serious question for you now. How do journalists feel they are percieved by the Armed Forces?
 
#20
qman said:
Nick why don't you run a story about the good that servicemen and wimmin are doing rather than what will no doubt be something based on half truth and conjecture. Why do you need to know about these weapon systems. Why don't you want to report on the difference that our servicemen are making in the Stan or Iraq. I admire your 'honesty' in outing yourself as a journalist, but did you seriously expect to get 'the' answer you were after.

A serious question for you now. How do journalists feel they are percieved by the Armed Forces?
qman - I suspect the more serious question is do journalists care about how they're perceived by any group in society?
 

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