Heineken Cup talks in deadlock as top English clubs consider alternative competitions - Telegraph I suspect this is a bit of North Korean style threats before you go into negotiation. But should the English Clubs pull out which of the 3 choices would you go for? It would pretty much kill the Heineken Cup stone dead. France and England right now have the cash as well to go it alone. Unfortunately it could affect Italy quite badly which would be a real shame. I suspect that the Welsh, Scottish and Irish Teams could form some form of Celtic League.