End of an era

My history of car ownership ( including company cars )
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Had a 997 ( not 998 )Cooper engine worth a mint
Then
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1st company car
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2nd company car
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Then 3 x of these ( all 1.6's )
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Then 3 x of these ( all 5 doors , nothing vulgar )
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And finally :rolleyes:
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and this ….
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Not a bad history at all, mine was a bit more shakey;
1974 Hillman Hunter 1725
1980 Ford Escort Ghia 1300
1986 Ford Fiesta XR2 (mk2)
1987 Ford Sierra LX 1800 (the worst car I ever owned, I wanted a Orion 1600 Ghia but you couldn’t get a second hand one in Germany for love nor money)
1991 Ford Fiesta RS Turbo
1996 Ford Escort 1600 Ghia mk6 (only new car I ever and will ever own)
1989 BMW 530i (waited until being posted back to UK after 12 years in Germany to own my first Beemer! Idiot!)
1995 Dodge Caravan 3ltr V6 (Canada posting)
1997 Ford Mondeo 1800 Ghia (second worst car I ever owned, never let your dad choose your car before being posted back from Canada!)
1998 BMW 320i Convertible
2004 Ford Focus 1800 Ghia
2006 BMW Z4 Convertible
Currently:
2009 BMW Z4 Hard Top Convertible
& BMW X5 3ltr Diesel to tow the caravan

Also had several company cars mainly Audi’s and Ford’s
 
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I face exactly the same problem with the P5. It's a Mk 3 and they never have been money spinners, but then that's what classics are all about. The Knock on from Martin Hurst Bringing back the V8 was that it needed a test bed and the P5 was it before it was shoehorned into the P6. The B stands for Buick. But that was a monumental change period- that makes the car you dealt with a '72. Triumph already had issues with competition between the 2000/2.5pI and the P6 2000 which was uprated to 2.2 Add Jaguar into the mix and nothing in the Lunchbox and P5b would do. But it was never meant to be built by Rover Now had Rover created a P6 convertable, not dissimilar to the stag, they would have had the power train for it. That was the original thinking for the conversions. But then Rover would have hit precisely the convention they undertook not to compete in the US. In short the only car they could market in the US was the P5B
I got a P5 in the early 70's, manual O/D, ran it for about a year. Loved it. I may have a goldfish gene somewhere, ooh look, that's nice, must have one. Anyway, a P5B turned up locally, don't like autos, Chieftain cured that, but had to have it. So I did, didn't like the auto bit, got rid. Anyway, I had two more, hoping I could learn to love it. Nope. Then one came up that had been prepped for rallying, total rebuild, new metal where neccessary, aaand, a five speed manual conversion! I've had it for about three years now. It's a beaut. Rover missed a trick when they only built auto's.
 
This is the end of an era.
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The era of the XJ6 (in all its variants).
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Around for most of my adult life and still one of the most beautiful saloon cars ever.

I don't really like the new model very much.
 
My first car was a 6 volt Beetle, bought in Detmold for DM80 around 1978. I sold it on for DM50 to another squaddie after a year. I ran a P6 for 14 years and have now settled on a 26 year-old Mercedes-Benz 190E, which makes me very happy!
 
This is the end of an era.
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The era of the XJ6 (in all its variants).
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Around for most of my adult life and still one of the most beautiful saloon cars ever.

I don't really like the new model very much.
I kinda agree with you, the old XJ’s were fantastic cars, my father-in-law had a 1974 XJ V12 for a good few years, she was a lovely piece of work, contrary to popular belief, it always started first time even in winter and went like a rocket for such a heavy beast.
The new one is were I tend to disagree with you a bit, I love the new shape and think they are a very modern twist on the old XJ’s, superb drive and when fully loaded are probably one of the best top end saloon cars around today. Not quite the character of old, but a good looking car none the less. A future classic, maybe not, but a good car.
 
I kinda agree with you, the old XJ’s were fantastic cars, my father-in-law had a 1974 XJ V12 for a good few years, she was a lovely piece of work, contrary to popular belief, it always started first time even in winter and went like a rocket for such a heavy beast.
The new one is were I tend to disagree with you a bit, I love the new shape and think they are a very modern twist on the old XJ’s, superb drive and when fully loaded are probably one of the best top end saloon cars around today. Not quite the character of old, but a good looking car none the less. A future classic, maybe not, but a good car.
I am hoping that it will grow on me. I love Jaguars but it isn't doing it for me yet. I don't think it is doing it for purchasers either as they seem to be thin on the ground, certainly in comparison to the XF.
 
I am hoping that it will grow on me. I love Jaguars but it isn't doing it for me yet. I don't think it is doing it for purchasers either as they seem to be thin on the ground, certainly in comparison to the XF.
Yeah you’re absolutely right, the XF though is aimed at Mondeo Man company car bracket, they are cheap to hire on lease and have a high resale value making them affordable to middle management. The XJ is an executive motor and aimed more at your CEO types, I think JLR will continue to manufacture the brand as it is a status symbol and a highly lucrative market overseas especially in the Middle East and America, remember because you don’t see many of them in the UK doesn’t mean they don’t sell abroad!
Downside, Theresa May gets to be chauffeured around in one, Boris will soon get his hands on it too
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The Jaguar XJ 5.0 V8 Petrol Sentinel, armoured of course.
 
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Bit of thread drift, there is a lot of 60s-70s knowledge flying about here. For holiday reading, based on reviews, I bought High Performance by Peter Grimsdale, it's a corker and well worth a read. Usual disclaimers.
 
My history of car ownership ( including company cars )
View attachment 403544
Followed by
View attachment 403546
Had a 997 ( not 998 )Cooper engine worth a mint
Then
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1st company car
View attachment 403549
2nd company car
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Then 3 x of these ( all 1.6's )
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Then 3 x of these ( all 5 doors , nothing vulgar )
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And finally :rolleyes:
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and this ….
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The Riley & Mini do it for me.
I'd not have said this in the 70's!
 
The Citreon 2CV was my favourite to drive and (mostly) to work on, shame that the quality of the parts let the whole thing down.
That's more embarrassing than being caught by your wife and mother-in-law in a cupboard with the vicar's todger stuck somewhere moist. I do admire your bravery.
 
Rover missed a trick when they only built auto's.
Point is they were rushed. The Old 3 litre box couldn't handle torque and they were pushed to get the V8 and released into circulation. Timescale is everything 65/66 they get the Buick but the only thing
they could use was BW 35. P4 goes out of production 64/65-P5 is due out of production 66/67 as it came out 58
So Rover have issues. LR on the one hand with the existing engines. P6 uses the 2000 and RR is on the stocks. P7 is in development but morphs into SD1. The P6 3thousand 5 is BW 35 What they try is a beefed up LT 77 box. But BLMC was forced to use the P5 from 66-74. Instead of dropping the P5 and using the money on a decent gear box for the V8 the drain it for XJ6 (execrable heap of shit) and SD division get the droppings I had 3 SD1's and have nothing but praise for the design, the build quality was deffo not Rover and that Box really was under pressure in the V8. What's really annoying is that when SD1 came out it really was a head turner, but typically British, if they make something really cracking someone always shits on it. That car is still bloody modern today.
 

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I kinda agree with you, the old XJ’s were fantastic cars, my father-in-law had a 1974 XJ V12 for a good few years, she was a lovely piece of work, contrary to popular belief, it always started first time even in winter and went like a rocket for such a heavy beast.
The new one is were I tend to disagree with you a bit, I love the new shape and think they are a very modern twist on the old XJ’s, superb drive and when fully loaded are probably one of the best top end saloon cars around today. Not quite the character of old, but a good looking car none the less. A future classic, maybe not, but a good car.
Hmm I think if I had that kind of money I’d be looking at an A8, much better put together.
 
Worst new car I ever owned was a Mk.4 2000 VW Golf 2.0 estate. Needed it when Junior 1 was born and I couldn't get the pram & associated baby gear in the back of the Mk2. The estate was a great buy having been a cancelled order that the dealer was desperate to shift.

Having had a Mk2, the Mk4 ought to have been even better. More to the point my old GTD had 80bhp and the estate has 115bhp.

Except that:
The Mk4 was about 400kg heavier than the Mk2
The alleged GTI 8V engine had less guts than a politician
It broke constantly
Ignition switch stuck
Rainwater leaks through both front doors
Alarm faults
Lambda sensors (x2)
Radio went chips
Water pump failed
Suspension issues
Etc etc

In addition it had as much grip as a greased pig, especially trying to get out of a side road when it would spin an inside wheel and wheel tramp like mad. And the seats were so hard they gave me pins and needles in an hour and cramp after 2 hours. Handling generally consisted of understeer, more understeer and further understeer with the addition of lots of roll.

Like this one but with 5 spoke alloys and a sunroof:
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Not had a VW since.
 
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Worst new car I ever owned was a Mk.4 2000 VW Golf 2.0 estate. Needed it when Junior 1 was born and I couldn't get the pram & associated baby gear in the back of the Mk2. The estate was a great buy having been a cancelled order that the dealer was desperate to shift.
You didn’t like it then?... you know we’re listening, if you want to get something of your chest!
Having had a Mk2, the Mk4 ought to have been even better. More to the point my old GTD had 80bhp and the estate has 115bhp.

Except that:
The Mk4 was about 400kg heavier than the Mk2
The alleged GTI 8V engine had less guts than a politician
It broke constantly
Ignition switch stuck
Rainwater leaks through both front doors
Alarm faults
Lambda sensors (x2)
Radio went chips
Water pump failed
Suspension issues
Etc etc

In addition it had as much grip as a greased pig, especially trying to get out of a side road when it would spin an inside wheel and wheel tramp like mad. And the seats were so hard they gave me pins and needles in an hour and cramp after 2 hours. Handling generally consisted of understeer, more understeer and further understeer with the addition of lots of roll.

Like this one but with 5 spoke alloys and a sunroof:
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Not had a VW since.
 

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